Can someone point me in the direction of instructions which make it clear how to set up MIR Pro 3D in Vienna Ensemble? I note there have been other threads where the same problem is raised.

It seems the manual can only be downloaded one page at a time and not as a single pdf. I've looked on youtube for videos by VSL (and anyone else) for a basic step-by-step set-up and all seem to start too far along the process or are not using Vienna Ensemble but working in another DAW.

In this VSL video     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaZw_av0TYI    it states at the outset that integration with V Ensemble will be in 'the next video'. So, where is the next video?

Currently I can right-click on a single instrument in Ensemble and get a red Inline label which then reveals the single instrument MIR Pro dry/wet and vol GUI. Does this have to be done for every single instrument?

How then does the main MIR / venue GUI appear?

(VSL told me that MIR Pro 3D will work with the free version of Vienna Ensemble.)

Clear instructions from any source would be much appreciated.

Hello Dietz,

Thanks for your response. I'll just mention again that I'm using VE not VEPro7. I'm also working with Sibelius. Currently MIR is not appearing in the Available devices list inside Sibelius. Should it?

I can see MIR and MIRacle have installed in the Avid VST folder and also in the VST2 and VSt3 folders. I used VIenna Assistant to download and install. MIR was a download; the Room Pack was installed from the VIenna hard drive. I have the 30-day licences on the iLok activated.

MIR is on the C drive and the Room Pack has installed itself on a G drive (an external SSD). In the Directory Manager a rescan does not show the Room Pack but it does show the instrument content in G drive.

The page you referred to states: 

'In VE Pro, click the New Project icon on the Menu Icon Bar at the top, or select the respective command from the “File” pull-down menu. A dialog window will open and ask you to select the desired channel configuration; please select a format from the list of pre-configured setups ...  The new Vienna Ensemble project will create a Master Bus with the chosen number of output channels, including a full-fledged panner.'

None of this is happening. The new project menu simply opens another instance of VE, there is no new master bus, and no default GUI of the venue.  The Insert Plugins button at the bottom left of VE does not list MIR.

So I am stuck at this point.

Hello Dietz,

Again, thanks for the quick reply.

I can launch the empty MIR outside of VE and Sibelius, and I can load a venue from Room Pack 1.

In VE preferences MIR, MIR Pro eq and MIRacle are all showing up; also MIR's own logo. I've done rescans here to make sure.

Open New Project on VE's menu does not offer MIR, just a change in the content of VE.

On the bottom left 'insert a new plugin after this channel' in VE MIR is still not showing - perhaps this is correct.

As mentioned before I can add the red Mir Pro inline to any instrument channel and clicking on this opens the small GUI of dry/wet and volume.

In Sibelius MIR doesn't show up on the active devices list, but it does appear under Master Insert Effects, along with the VIenna Suite plugins. But this would add it to the final master stereo which is the wrong place, is it not? And I have the impression MIR doesn't need to be an active device in Sibelius?

So I think the issue is missing steps for what happens inside VE. For example, if the red inline is activated for every instrument in an VE instance, how then does MIR open fully inside VE? And what if there is more than one instance of VE? 

There is a complicated heirarchy of processing (Sibelius, VIPro, VE, MIR) which is difficult to grasp.

I hope this makes plain the problem.

I'm also having the same problem on an M1 MacMini/Ventura.

I can use MIRPro in Logic without issue and also boot it from the Finder as an Application

BUT.

I can't see it from within VEPro (FX drop down menu) and if I click the 'Auto Add Mir' red button I also get nothing when creating new Channels.

I can see the MIR Pro Equaliser and also MIRacle, but not MIR Pro itself.

VSL developers suggest to initiate a complete plug-in re-scan in case MIR 3D doesn't show up in the selection pull-down: 

Originally Posted by: Oceanview

Hello Dietz,

I have MIR opening now.

Yay! That's good to hear. :-)

The first instance of MIR 3D defines the format for the whole project. This means MIR 3D inserted in a stereo track will make your whole session stereo. While you could choose other output formats within MIR 3D, this won't change the fact that the channel it's inserted will remain stereo. - I don't think that Sibelius offers surround- or 3D audio (but I might be wrong).

:-) 

There's no "Master Volume", if this is what you're looking for. But there are several was to achieve the same effect: Select all Icons (either manually with the mouse, or by typing Cmd/Ctrl-A. Now hold Option(Mac)/Alt(Win) and raise the Volume of any Icon; all others will do the same.

No. Volume settings used to be the same in legacy Vienna MIR Pro, but in case of MIR 3D the level of an Instrument/Icon is independent from the host, even it's VE Pro. It's up to you wether you prefer to mix in VE Pro or directly in MIR 3D.

That would be the so-called "Characters" in MIR 3D. Again, they are independent from any other tool used in VE Pro or elsewhere, so it's either-or again.

... please be aware that these highly specific settings were made for the respective Vienna Instrument. They might give you strange results with other sources.

We took note! :-) Thanks for the suggestion.

Originally Posted by: Paul

Did you try to uninstall and reinstall the latest versions of VE Pro and MIR Pro from within Vienna Assistant yet?

Uninstalling using the Uninstall app in the same folder as MIRPro and then re-installing via the updated Vienna Assistant solved it - many thanks Paul.

By the way - Roompack 7 is STUNNING.

Hello again Dietz,

It looks like in MIR roles, under Dimension Strings, Cello Player 5's preset is missing. Am I right, or did you know this already?

Also, does MIR Pro's audio output return to VE? This would mean any effect applied to the master channel in VE would be post-MIR (?). 

Thanks.

Hello Dietz,

I've just invested in Room pack 3 for MIR Pro3D.

When I click on 'Roles' in the Steinhofkirche GUI neither of the Room pack 3 venues appear. I can see Teldex / Gateshead / Pernegg / Synchron (of the room packs I don't have) plus Room pack 1 (which I do), but nothing for pack 3. Pack 3 is listed on Options - Preferences in the same location as pack 1 on my external hard drive. The instruments are all visible in the church graphic.

Can you explain what has happened to these roles for pack 3?

With thanks.

Thanks for clarifying this. It was only looking for the non-existing roles that was the problem - I have everything else working and visible (the 9-10 second reverb length is wild!).