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Posted on Fri, Jul 21 2023 21:03
by Vinny Colletti
Joined on Mon, Apr 12 2021, Upstate NY, Posts 19

Originally Posted by: jweisig Go to Quoted Post
There very well may be a problem, but as time continues to elapse, this is feeling like more than just getting VEP and Apple Silicon to work together. I’m starting to think GPU audio might be a factor here given the forthcoming integration with MIR and VSL’s interoperability among their tools. That kind of paradigm shift would be a lot more challenging and would explain the reluctance to develop an intermediate solution between Intel and this next iteration of VE Pro.

Well GPU audio would be a very welcome surprise. Seems like it would be a good time to do it given they're ripping their hair out writing code for a completely different architecture already but maybe we would have gotten some news of this like- "Hey keep your shirts on, the new version will be Amazing! Stupendous!! Colossal!!!!" But... no news.

Where did this "last release of round 1" news come from? Beta tester?, crystal ball?, Ouija Board? Karnak? Nostradamus?

My sympathy to those of you trying to make a living.

VEPro 7
Mir 24 3d
Synchronized SE V1
Smart Orchestra + Exp.
Synchron Harp
Mac Studio Max 64GB
Studio One 6
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Posted on Sun, Jul 23 2023 16:35
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 257

Originally Posted by: Vinny Colletti Go to Quoted Post

Where did this "last release of round 1" news come from? Beta tester?, crystal ball?, Ouija Board? Karnak? Nostradamus?

From Paul's video.

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Posted on Mon, Jul 24 2023 23:27
by Vinny Colletti
Joined on Mon, Apr 12 2021, Upstate NY, Posts 19

Thanks David, do you mean the video from a few months back? I thought this was something new.

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Synchron Harp
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Posted on Tue, Jul 25 2023 13:56
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 257

Yes, exactly, the video from March.

Best,

David

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Posted on Fri, Jul 28 2023 19:36
by rockdude9k
Joined on Fri, Oct 05 2012, Posts 25

Andddddd another week bites the dust....
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Posted on Fri, Jul 28 2023 21:35
by Vinny Colletti
Joined on Mon, Apr 12 2021, Upstate NY, Posts 19

Gotta be programming job from hell. They'll get it

VEPro 7
Mir 24 3d
Synchronized SE V1
Smart Orchestra + Exp.
Synchron Harp
Mac Studio Max 64GB
Studio One 6
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Posted on Sat, Jul 29 2023 04:04
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2901

They have been busy with Dual Strings to make more money

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
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Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Sat, Jul 29 2023 04:06
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2901

I just use VI and MIR PRO 3D in Logic as well as other AU like Kontakt, this save CPU

I am working on a 100 tracks project with no problem on my MacBook Pro 2019 64 GB

I am experimenting Dolby 7.4.1 at the moment

Just need to reboot when you start working in Logic, this to clear all memory used by other apps

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 11:18
by santamorphic
Joined on Wed, Jun 04 2008, Posts 201

Great to see the Apple Silicon native release of VEPro 7 today. Thank you guys!

Quick question - is it normal to see only the "Vienna Ensemble Pro Surround" plugin in the DAW? Should we be just using this one plugin and setting the output type to what we require even if that's not surround?

Thanks!

EDIT: SOLUTION - Just download with Vienna Assistant and install manually rather than entirely with Vienna Assistant. Thanks!

DAW Client: Cubase 12, Nuendo 12, Ableton Live 11, iMac Pro 10/20 Core, 64GB RAM
VEPro Server: Windows 11, 4/8 core, 256GB RAM, SSDs
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 12:20
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13905

Hi everybody, 

VE Pro 7, VI Pro and Vienna Imperial are now Apple Silicon Ready and available in your Vienna Assistant!

Watch the announcement video on YouTube!

Update: VE Pro 7 GLITCH-FIX for VST3 and AAX on macOS- fixed with VE Pro 7.3.3335, available in your Vienna Assistant. 

Next up: Vienna Organ Player and Vienna Suite Pro. 

Also check out the special offers with VE Pro 7 (35% OFF, with upgrades starting from 45 EUR) and VI Collections (45% OFF)!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 12:31
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 257

Hi Paul/VSL,

This is a great day, thanks so much VSL for these updates. Out of curiosity, how did you manage to port VI Pro and the Vienna Imperial to Apple Silicon? Back in March, you said it would be hard, if not impossible to port them to AS. Thanks again!

Best,

David

iMac (2020), Intel i9 3,6 Ghz, 64 GB RAM
MacBook Pro (2021), M1 Max, 64 GB RAM
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 13:08
by santamorphic
Joined on Wed, Jun 04 2008, Posts 201

Hi Paul and team,

Just tried a project that was maxing out CPU before and regardless of the great Apple Silicon addition, the performance jump with this new version is PHENOMENAL! (Cubase Intel <-> VEPro Server Windows). Thank you! HUGE reduction in load on the DAW. I'm seeing significantly better audio performance than before, even after having halved the buffer size!

Amazing! Thank you!

DAW Client: Cubase 12, Nuendo 12, Ableton Live 11, iMac Pro 10/20 Core, 64GB RAM
VEPro Server: Windows 11, 4/8 core, 256GB RAM, SSDs
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 15:50
by Watercolor Music
Joined on Sun, Aug 09 2020, Posts 11

Am I dreaming???!!!

Bye Rosetta!
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 16:14
by Marsdy
Joined on Wed, Aug 06 2003, UK, Posts 77

My joy for an Apple Silicon version of VE Pro is short lived. An AAX version doesn't seem to get installed. I've tried installing twice but there's nothing getting installed in:

Macintosh HD>Library>Application Support>Avid>Audio>Plugins

VST(3) and AU install fine. AAX Synchro Player/Pianos/Harp all installed correctly.

Dave Marsden
UK
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 16:32
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13905

HI Marsdy, 

That's indeed a stupid glitch in the (silent) VA Installer.

I have posted the fix above, should be corrected with the next update: 

VE Pro 7 GLITCH-FIX for VST3 and AAX on macOS: Please use THIS WORKAROUND for now to install the software manually. The installation routine in the Vienna Assistant does not install these plug-ins properly!
This installer issue will be fixed asap. 

Didn't want to ruin your first impression!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 16:44
by Marsdy
Joined on Wed, Aug 06 2003, UK, Posts 77

That worked! Thanks for the speedy reply Paul

David

Dave Marsden
UK
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 17:29
by Tomboman
Joined on Sun, Mar 01 2015, Posts 8

Hi Paul,

I just wanted to say thank you soooo much that Imperial was updated as well. That was my most important one, and I am so glad you made it work!!!

Vielen herzlichen Dank!!
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 17:38
by afterlight
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2011, Posts 25

Still baffled by the PR side, but this is a huge release. Congrats! Game changer for so many people.

Frankly surprised it isn't a paid update and version 8; would gladly have paid for this! That's very decent of Vienna to do it like this.
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 19:31
by rockdude9k
Joined on Fri, Oct 05 2012, Posts 25

Finally!!! WhooHooo!!!

 

Although after all this time, I'm very apprehensive.  What's the best way for users to roll back if any of us encounter issues?
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Posted on Tue, Aug 01 2023 20:27
by Kai
Joined on Sun, Dec 29 2002, Graz, Austria, Posts 187

Amazing news that everything is native now 😀 - thanks so much for making this happen!
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