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Synchronized Dimension Brass vs Synchron Brass
Last post Sat, May 27 2023 by michi, 7 replies.
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Posted on Wed, May 24 2023 15:31
by Sakamoto
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Germany, Posts 118

Hi friends,

I own the Synchron Brass and VI Dimension Brass I - now I wonder if the Synchronized Dimension Brass ist worth the upgrade. As I own the VI Dimension Brass I have the feeling that they are better in some expressions than the Synchron Brass. How do you think? Should I invest in the Synchronized one (plus Dimension Brass 2)?
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Posted on Thu, May 25 2023 07:31
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2832

Hello

I have ask the same question to VSL support with VI libs using MIR PRO 3D, Paul told me that the only difference is the Player.

Best

Cyril

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Posted on Fri, May 26 2023 06:31
by Sakamoto
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Germany, Posts 118

Thank you Cyril - different player means different sound? I just had the impression that the Dimension Brass sounds more articulated and complex but I am not sure. How did you decide?

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc Go to Quoted Post

Hello

I have ask the same question to VSL support with VI libs using MIR PRO 3D, Paul told me that the only difference is the Player.

Best

Cyril
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Posted on Fri, May 26 2023 08:17
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2832

Originally Posted by: Sakamoto Go to Quoted Post

 How did you decide?

I HAVE TO SPECIFY I USE MIR PRO 3D

I made a Mix with Synchron instruments, did not like it

Speaking with support they told me to remove the reverb in the Synchron instruments

Still did not like the Mix

Then I used the VI PRO instrument

Much better result using the patch that auto detect the length of the note, it is avoiding to spend days setting common articulations

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa
Many Sychron Instruments

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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Posted on Fri, May 26 2023 09:57
by Andreas8420
Joined on Mon, Dec 02 2019, Vienna, Posts 259

This seems to go a bit off-topic. 

As a general rule of thumb, MIR Pro 3D works best with DRY & CLOSE-UP instruments. The Synchron libraries are, per design, the opposite. These are "wet" samples with the hall of the stage "baked" into the samples. MIR Pro has been designed with the dry samples of VI Series in mind.

As for the original questions:

The SYNCHRON-ized Dimension Brass samples are based on the same original sample content as our VI Dimension Brass. As Cyril correctly pointed out: 

It's a player preference, really. Do you prefer the 100% dry sound of VI Series and the workflow of the VI Player? Or do you prefer the Synchron Player user interface & workflow? All musicians correctly seated and ready to play with the Synchron Stage sound.

SYNCHRON-ized libraries are the easiest to match and mix with Synchron Libraries or Big Bang Orchestra libraries - the have the same sound signature.

Best regards,
Andreas

Technical Support - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Fri, May 26 2023 20:34
by DaddyO
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Washington (US State), Posts 476

Just out of curiosity, are the VI and Synchron-ized Dimension Brass libraries recorded using Bb Trumpets or C Trumpets. The online manual doesn't seem to specify.

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Posted on Sat, May 27 2023 05:23
by michi
Joined on Sun, Dec 22 2002, vienna, Posts 544
Hi Daddy0,

For the Dimension Brass library Bb-Trumpets has been used.

Best, Michael
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