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  • Natural Horn

    Hi,
    another question:
    What is a "Natural Horn" ?
    I am not very good in Brass, can someone tell me how can I substitute (samplewise) for a Natural Horn?

    thx again -h.

    Too old for Rock n Roll. Too young for 9th symphonies. Wagner Lover, IRCAM Alumni. Double Bass player starting in low Es. I am where noise is music.
  • Sometimes when men wake up in the morning .... sorry I mean, here is a link with some info:

    http://www.public.asu.edu/~jqerics/natural_horn.htm

  • Think of a French Horn with no valves -- any note in the harmonic series of F is playable (in the right octave). If you want a different harmonic series, you replace a "crook" (a piece of tubing) to make the total length of tube tuned to another note (E or D or C, typically).

  • The natural horn was the kind of brass instrument that all were, before valves as gugliel said. Also, in the case of the horn (as opposed to natural trumpets) the player would use his hand in the bell to modify the pitch slightly, allowing semitones not accessible from the natural overtone series which is available in all brass instruments. This is similar to stopping the horn, though was like a "half-stopping" in order to create a brief passing tone to a regular available tone. These horn players would have to carry around with them all the crooks needed to jam into their horns and change its key, then use these slightly hand-modified (and not very in tune) notes for passing tones.

    Also it should be noted the horn was able to accomplish this partly because its most used range was the equivalent of the clarino trumpet range - a relatively high range with many overtone partials that are almost scale tones. The diabolically difficult natural clarino trumpet (featured for example in the famous Bach Brandenburg concerto) did what it did by the player being able to shift with lips alone the naturally out of tune partials to represent a tempered scale.

    You can hear the difference in sound (and intonation) in many recordings today that feature period instruments. Roger Norrington has done some great recordings with natural brass instruments in the orchestra.

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