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Recording modulation as automation in Logic
Last post Tue, Jan 03 2006 by Dom, 5 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Dec 15 2005 12:04
by Dom
Joined on Sat, Nov 13 2004, London, Posts 222
Slightly unexciting question here:

I am trying to get Logic (6.4.3) to record my modwheel changes as track automation, not as part of the object, in order to control mod-wheel layered dynamic patches.

Having the modulation in track automation makes it easier to overwrite it, or parts of it with "touch automation" etc. For one, I can't even move the modulation from the object to automation using the command "move current obect data to track automation". This works with volume but not modulation.

I've set up a transformer object in Track Automation Spliter mode, but that converts the controller data into fader data that's not sent out via midi (called "1 unused") rather than "control 1 - modulation".

How do YOU control your 4-layer modwheel patches? Do you always record the modwheel as part of the object or have you found a way to do this in track automation?

Posted on Thu, Dec 15 2005 14:55
by musos
Joined on Sun, Dec 08 2002, Johannesburg, South Africa, Posts 912
There is a workaround for this - for some reason, modulation doesn't seem to appear as a default choice for automation.

Do this:
Select your region(s) in the arrange window.
Go to local <View> menu/Hyperdraw/ and select <Modulation>

With the region still selected, go to <Options> menu/Track Automation and select <Move current region data to track automation>

Your Modwheel data will now appear as <1 unused> automation data. With this visible, you can now work as always....

Regards - Colin
Posted on Thu, Dec 15 2005 16:00
by Dom
Joined on Sat, Nov 13 2004, London, Posts 222
Thanks Colin. That's interesting, your suggestion of going via hyper-draw works but the problem is that in order to change the modulation-automation you still can't use touch and latch - or is there a way to rerecord (as in record automation) your modulation curves in realtime?

Put more simply - can we only record automation of pan and volume and plugin parameters using a controller like Logic (or Mackie-) control, or simply a mod-wheel?
Posted on Fri, Dec 30 2005 00:06
by rawmusic
Joined on Sat, Jul 09 2005, UK, Posts 247
I think the thing is that the track automation offers parameters that are to do with the track being audio based and therefore limited to audio-related functions. Mod wheel is of course MIDI.

I do agree with you though. In the virtual world of Logic, why can't mod wheel be one of the automation options? Particularly when the audio instrument IS MIDI controlled?!
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Posted on Tue, Jan 03 2006 15:47
by Dom
Joined on Sat, Nov 13 2004, London, Posts 222
Somebody on the Logic Users Group kindly pointed me towards John Pitcairn's website (http://www.opuslocus.net/logic/) that has an downloadable ingenious environment which includes the necessary objects and cabling that allows modulation to be treated as automation! I have now pasted it into my own template and it works very well!

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