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VSL Pro update and EXSManager problems...
Last post Mon, Jan 30 2006 by Björn, 11 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Jan 23 2006 21:50
by Ackerdemiker
Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004, Germany, Posts 40
hi there,

After reinstalling my complete 1st Edition and the Pro-Update, running the exsManager-pro I have again the problem that some samples are not relinked.

I don´t know what to do. Everything is on one HD-Raid, everything is installed. Although nobody could answer my question if in the Pro-Update I find all the instruments of my first-Edition too, I have installed now only the pro-Instruments because I had some problems with double-instruments, for example the Flute in 1st Edition is exactly the flute2 in the Pro. So there were some problems by loading the insturments...now I have just the Pro-instruuments installed... (is that right???)

My problem: Some of the instruments are loading very fast... the same tempo like it was before when I only had my 1st Edition. But with some instruments there are some problems: Samples are not found or it stops when 20% of the samples have been loaded. Then the questions: "search again or abort"...

I have made now a new rescann and reprocess in the Advanced-Mode, I just linked the both folders of all of my VSL-Instruments of the Pro and my Horizon-Instruments with the folder of all of the samples...

So what am I doing wrong?

Or what could I do better?

I see that when Logic finds a linked sample just the loading-window and for example 14String-Perfect-Legato need 10-12 seconds to load. No Apple-Ball, nothing, just loading. But when Logic doesn´t find the samples: Apple-Ball, waiting, waiting, waiting, 1-2 minutes later the question...

HELP!!!

greets and Thanx,

Acker Sad
Mac Pro 8x3,0 16GB, 2TB, Macbook Pro Retina 2.7 768GB 16GB VSL Instruments Pro/ Vienna Ensemble Pro
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 02:47
by Dar32
Joined on Fri, May 20 2005, USA, Posts 373
Acker

I learned to scan link one instrument one sample at a time for clear use and no trouble shooting.

Then after an all day linking, it works trouble free for ever.

Just my Experience. With that issue.

Good Luck !

Best
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 09:34
by Björn
Joined on Sun, Nov 13 2005, Germany, Posts 20
R.K. wrote:
Acker

I learned to scan link one instrument one sample at a time for clear use and no trouble shooting.

Best


You are joking, aren't you?
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 10:55
by Dar32
Joined on Fri, May 20 2005, USA, Posts 373
I meant one Instrument folder at a time to one sample folder at a time.

Solo violin 01 instrument folder <> to solo violin 01 sample folder

That is very slow. But the scan is so fast most of the time, that it makes mistakes.

I've learned to assure proper and trouble free usage by scanning in this manner.

I never worry about any hard drive problems or loading up issues by doing it this way.


Best
Regards
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 14:15
by agoz
Joined on Sun, Aug 31 2003, Posts 108
R.K.
I can assure you that the scanning is fast but does *not* make mistakes.
Relinking one folder at a time is not reccomended, as it's essentially a waste of (user) time.

About the original problem I see two possible factors:
-are we sure that you are scanning all samples, and not just a part of them?
-do you really have those samples on your drive?

You can easily see the reason for your problem this way:
- go into advanced mode
- set all folders,and if you need them, multiple sample locations (paths)
- analyze
- check the stats on the right: how many incomplete instruments you get?
- go into instrument view and select "show incomplete instruments"
- select an instrument and you will see the missing samples in red
- now check that those missing samples are on disk
- if yes, check that those missing samples are in the folders you set ExsManager to scan

Andrea at Redmatica
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 14:39
by Dar32
Joined on Fri, May 20 2005, USA, Posts 373
Andrea
thank you for reassurance. You are right. I actually think EXS manager does a great job and works flawlessly. But maybe I'm old fashioned, I still think scanning the old fashion way, pays of at the end. Or maybe I havn't the time to learn EXS manager.
I think I'm just too old fashion.

Thank's for taking care of us.

Best
Regard
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Posted on Tue, Jan 24 2006 14:54
by agoz
Joined on Sun, Aug 31 2003, Posts 108
R.K.,
you're not old fashioned, you simply do care for your precious files and I am the very first one to understand that. I only wanted to reassure you on the matter...

Andrea at Redmatica
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Posted on Wed, Jan 25 2006 22:14
by Ackerdemiker
Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004, Germany, Posts 40
heyho everybody...

first of all THANK you for your answers, it´s nice to see that you help me solving my problem...

ok, Andrea I have checked all the samples and the insturments... I´m sure that everything is installed... although I have found one instrument, that means the samples of one whole instrument... I unzipped them with Stuffit-expander but this folder was lost... ok... perhaps my fault...

What I did after this check: I did a complete rescann in advanced mode, with the result that exsmanager didn´t change anything... there WAS nothing to change.... hm...

ok again...

I started my Logic, did NO rescan with the project-manager (I don´t need it...) and:

IT IS WORKING... the first samples I have loaded were really fast, for example a Perfomance-Legato-String in 3-5 seconds... that´s how I knew it...

Sometimes it´s searching a little bit longer.... then it shows me first the Apple-rainbow-balloon and 10-15 seconds later it begins to load... but slow (up to 30seconds)... when I do it later again, it´s fast like the other instruments... I just had this experience with two instruments in an arrangement with over 20 VSL-Instruments... so it´s ok or me... I think, the most samples and instruments are relinked... and then it´s fast... very fast...

If I find now the one or other instrument not relinked it would surprise me but this would be a problem which I could live with... because after this first-time-load everything is really re-linked...

thank you everybody...

I like this community.... great...

greets,
take care,

Acker
Mac Pro 8x3,0 16GB, 2TB, Macbook Pro Retina 2.7 768GB 16GB VSL Instruments Pro/ Vienna Ensemble Pro
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Posted on Thu, Jan 26 2006 01:30
by Björn
Joined on Sun, Nov 13 2005, Germany, Posts 20
The behavior your Logic shows now, is similar to mine (or to be exact: was like mine). I deleted the Logic Database and did a complete rescan and now EVERY instruments is that fast. So think about it in a free minute...

Greetz!
Björn
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Posted on Sun, Jan 29 2006 21:54
by Ackerdemiker
Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004, Germany, Posts 40
Björn wrote:
The behavior your Logic shows now, is similar to mine (or to be exact: was like mine). I deleted the Logic Database and did a complete rescan and now EVERY instruments is that fast. So think about it in a free minute...

Greetz!
Björn


hi Björn,

I did one rescan last week... and now I didn´t find something wrong... everything seems to work,

BUt one question: did you the rescan with logic or with the exsmanager? I don´t use the logic-manager...

greets,
Acker
Mac Pro 8x3,0 16GB, 2TB, Macbook Pro Retina 2.7 768GB 16GB VSL Instruments Pro/ Vienna Ensemble Pro
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Posted on Mon, Jan 30 2006 01:28
by Björn
Joined on Sun, Nov 13 2005, Germany, Posts 20
Hi,

I relinked everything with the Exsmanager from Redmatica and after that I deleted the logic database and did a full rescan inside logic (using the projectmanager).
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