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MAC Logic Users: You CAN access 8 gig of Vienna if you.....
Last post Sun, Apr 30 2006 by svonkampen, 11 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 00:50
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
MAC Logic Users: You CAN access circa 8 gig of Vienna if you...

Run 3-4 gig of exs24 (old library) AND 3-4 gig of Vienna Instruments

I launched the terminal and typed in TOP (this shows you where memory is going)

VSL-Server despite being an AU plug-in has its own MEMORY going to it. In other words when adding more Vienna Instruments instances in Logic 7, it does NOT increase the momory used by Logic7 but instead goes to the memory used by VSL-server....

Now if you launch an instance of the old EXS24 edition in Logic (Epic Horns for instance) then memory used by Logic7 DOES increase.....

This is good news......


Since the mac sees VSL-server as a seperate APP/Entity from Logic7


So right now i just run Epic Horns and Opus Woodwinds etc as EXS24 and all my strings as Vienna Instruments, which gives me access to the full 8 gig of RAM on 1 G5.

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 17:44
by julian
Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720
Add another 3-4 Gig by opening a VI stand-alone!

I do find that the most I can get the au's or the stand-alones to load is about 3.2-3.3 GB though.

Julian
Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 21:18
by Christian Marcussen
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Posts 1508
Interesting. So could you load VI within logic, and then load VI as a stand alone and get about 8gb usage?

Makes a MAC a bit more attractive.
Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 21:31
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
I did not make myself clear.........NO Stand-Alone needed......

When opening Vienna Instruments within Logic...the memory being used by Logic DOES NOT increase!

So you open circa 3.5 gig of Vienna Instruments IN Logic (not stand-alone)....NOW you STILL have circa 3.5 gig of EXS24 vienna stuff (old library) available...

SINCE, the way they set up VSL-server, it does not touch the 4 gig available to Logic..

On a MAC each app has a 4 gig cap.
VSL-server is it's OWN app, even when run as a plug-in in Logic.

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 23:11
by fitch
Joined on Tue, Jun 17 2003, dublin, Posts 143
even though i don't own a VI .. that'a incredibly interesting news SvK

thanks for posting it Big Smile
cheers, fitch
Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 23:23
by hermitage59
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2005, The Slavic Cultural Empire, Posts 1050
svonkampen wrote:
I did not make myself clear.........NO Stand-Alone needed......

When opening Vienna Instruments within Logic...the memory being used by Logic DOES NOT increase!

So you open circa 3.5 gig of Vienna Instruments IN Logic (not stand-alone)....NOW you STILL have circa 3.5 gig of EXS24 vienna stuff (old library) available...

SINCE, the way they set up VSL-server, it does not touch the 4 gig available to Logic..

On a MAC each app has a 4 gig cap.
VSL-server is it's OWN app, even when run as a plug-in in Logic.

SvK


I'd be interested to know if this affects the sample count ceiling.
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Posted on Wed, Apr 19 2006 23:55
by julian
Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720
I'd be interested to know if this affects the sample count ceiling.


112,000+ samples!

www.julianscott.com/Vienna_7GB.jpg

Julian
Posted on Thu, Apr 20 2006 08:50
by Christian Marcussen
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Posts 1508
svonkampen wrote:
I did not make myself clear.........NO Stand-Alone needed......
Guess I did not make myself clear either - I was asking because I'm only interested in teh VI, not the old EXS version. So I wanted to know if there was a way to access all that memory using the VI.
Posted on Thu, Apr 20 2006 09:02
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9146
hasn't somebody mentioned plogue beeing able to give access to more than 4 GB lately? i might be wrong though ....
christian
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Posted on Sun, Apr 30 2006 17:44
by JJRoach
Joined on Thu, Mar 02 2006, Los Angeles, CA USA, Posts 87
I've used plogue a bit, but not whie monitoring activity monitor...but, I think plogue still uses the 1 set of memory provided by VSL Server...I'm thinking because it's still an AU plug-in on the same machine
Posted on Sun, Apr 30 2006 18:05
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
What JJ Roach said:

As soon as an AU version of VI is opened .........The memory goes to one place only VSL-Server.

So accessing more VIs by opening plugue or similar, in addition to the DAW does not apply.

SvK
I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
MacPro 2x3Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 16 Gig RAM, 10.6.2, Metric Halo 2882, Logic 9
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