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Musical thanks for the Concert Organ
Last post Sun, Nov 26 2006 by Beat Kaufmann, 15 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 13:44
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
Hello
I'd like to express my most sincere thank to VSL and all of those
people who worked for this lovely product.
Because of your location I've choosen "Wienerblut" (Joh. Strauss).
Perhaps I've taken a hand and a foot to much for this piece... Wink
but it comes from the heart...
New Version (18th Novemver) with more "Wiener-Schmäh"
Wienerblut, Concert Organ, Konzerthaus (excerpt)

Technique:
4 VI instances
Manual Registrations, Pedal Registrations
I used neither a reverb effect nor an other effect > just THE Organ.

All the best
Beat Kaufmann
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 14:08
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9101
LOL
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 14:29
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1986
haha! Reminds me the kind of thing I do after mass, of course I WILL go to hell... Devil

Never-the-less, the organ sounds great!

Maybe it's time I opened my box....
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 16:44
by jamriding
Joined on Thu, Mar 31 2005, U.K., Posts 259
[Indifferent] Cool Stick out tongue Big Smile
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 18:18
by JBacal
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Posts 1206
Great fun! Well done.

Is the spatial placement of the different parts a natural phenomenon due to the placement of the pipes in the hall or did you do some fancy panning? I'm afraid I know next to nothing about concert organs.

Best,
Jay
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 18:22
by Justus
Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005, Hamburg, Germany, Posts 41
Why do I imagine an organ grinder with monkey on his shoulder? Surpriseops:

Sounds very nice!!!
OPUS 1
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 19:18
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9101
my first association was similar, but i dared to post it - here is a detail from *grosse standorgel im böhmischen prater*
<a href=http://vsl.co.at/upload/...49/standorgel_detail.jpg"="" target="_blank" title="http://vsl.co.at/upload/users/449/standorgel_detail.jpg">http://vsl.co.at/upload/users/449/standorgel_detail.jpg">
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 19:23
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
JBacal wrote:
Great fun! Well done.
Is the spatial placement of the different parts a natural phenomenon due to the placement of the pipes in the hall or did you do some fancy panning? I'm afraid I know next to nothing about concert organs.
Best,
Jay

Hello Jay
The pipes of the Concert Organ are behind the orchestra stage. There is an info with the organ:
...Helmer and Fellner, together with Ludwig Baumann, the joint architects of the Konzerthaus, had planned the front of the Great Hall as a semicircular apse with the organ hidden behind it...
So I believe that the pipes are spread over the whole with of the Great Hall which could give the "fancy panning" as you suppose.
Perhaps Dietz can tell us more about it.
Confirmation:
I played the 4 VIs as the are originaly programed and I didn't add any effect at all. So the panning is the natural phenomenon > Dietz?

Beat
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 19:37
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
Justus wrote:
Why do I imagine an organ grinder with monkey on his shoulder? Surpriseops:


Yes Waltz = Barrel Organ ... but
From now on: It all turn out quite differntly [Wink]


Beat
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 21:48
by Justus
Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005, Hamburg, Germany, Posts 41
Sorry, Beat, es kam mir halt spontan ein "Wienerblut"-spielender Drehorgelspieler in den Sinn. Natürlich kam es, wie du schon sagtest, dadurch, dass der Walzer an sich mittlerweile ein Klischee für Drehorgelspieler geworden ist.

Ich bewundere immer deine tollen Soundfiles, die immer qualitativ hochwertig sind und in die du viel Zeit hineingesteckt haben musst.
Keep up the good work!

Händel rulez!!!

Gruß
Michael
OPUS 1
Posted on Wed, Nov 15 2006 22:44
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
Justus wrote:
Sorry, Beat, es kam mir halt spontan ein "Wienerblut"-spielender Drehorgelspieler in den Sinn. Natürlich kam es, wie du schon sagtest, dadurch, dass der Walzer an sich mittlerweile ein Klischee für Drehorgelspieler geworden ist.

Ich bewundere immer deine tollen Soundfiles, die immer qualitativ hochwertig sind und in die du viel Zeit hineingesteckt haben musst.
Keep up the good work!

Händel rulez!!!

Gruß
Michael

Hallo Justus
Danke für dein Lob. Tut immer gut. Habe aber überhaupt kein Problem mit der Drehorgel. Die Verbindung besteht nun einfach im Hirn. Als Dank für Wiener musste was hin von Wien. Nun wissen wir's: Die Konzert-Orgel kann auch Walzer spielen. Trotzdem:

Why on earth are music styles sometimes stuck to instruments. Why do we not play a Rag with a concert Harp or a Swing, a Waltz with a church organ? Since I'm an owner of a symphonic orchestra I feel like doing such unusual things more and more:
- a Bach-Organ-Prelude with 12 Cellos...
- Rossini's Tell with percussion
- VSL with Children
- ...
And - No VSL-musician has ever complained about playing in a foreign music style. Great, isn't it?
So let's cross the borders with VSL

Beat
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Sat, Nov 18 2006 12:18
by david ender
Joined on Fri, Feb 20 2004, Vienna/Austria, Posts 461
Both very (very!) nice, Beat - thank you!

Cheers,
David
Posted on Sat, Nov 18 2006 20:31
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
Hello
I've reworked my first version to a real Vienna Waltz.
The typical thing of the Vienna Waltz is its "pulled forward" 2nd beat. This gives the drive as we know it.

So have fun with this new Strauss. It contains more Wiener-Schmäh.
(Schmäh of Wien = typical Vienna humor?)
The barrel organ-feeling disappeared a bit too, I think (hope)

J.Strauss: Wienerblut with "Schmäh"

and the second piece

Sousa: Stars and Stripes

Nice weekend
Beat
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Sun, Nov 19 2006 19:26
by RedLeicester
Joined on Thu, Jul 22 2004, UK, Posts 66
Glad to see we're thinking along the same lines Beat - one of the first pieces I tried on the Reiger Organ was Liberty Bell... though in tribute to Monty Python, not Sousa! Devil

Great demos as usual, well done.
Ars Longa; Vita Brevis
Posted on Sun, Nov 26 2006 04:03
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1727
RedLeicester wrote:
Glad to see we're thinking along the same lines Beat - one of the first pieces I tried on the Reiger Organ was Liberty Bell... though in tribute to Monty Python, not Sousa! Devil
Great demos as usual, well done.

Hi Devil
Glad to meet a "same-liner".
Is it possible to show the Monty Python as a mp3 here?
I'm in a fever of anticipation...

Nice weekend
Beat [Wink]
www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
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