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First Appassionata demo and a Piano Concerto
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Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 11:55
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622
Guy Bacos sent us a first version of an wonderful Appassionata demo.
Guy plans to expand it, so there will a longer version available the next days.

http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=4991

Guy also did a virtuos concert piece for piano.
In this demo also the new Appassionata Strings are used,
for example at timecode 0:58 cellos are performing a lyrical melody.

http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=4989


thanks a lot Guy!
Herb
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 12:03
by drew buchan
Joined on Sun, Nov 27 2005, Posts 243
Lovely.

Has any processing has been applied, or are these the raw sounds?
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 12:27
by hermitage59
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2005, The Slavic Cultural Empire, Posts 1050
The strings demo is good Guy, and a sensible choice for showing the Apassionata on their own, something i think many have asked for.

But the piano piece is thoroughly delightful.
What a wonderful sound!

Well done.

Regards,

Alex.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 13:19
by JBacal
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Posts 1210
Wow! The piano concert piece is one of your best and that's saying a lot!

Best,
Jay
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 14:02
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1660
Another nod on the piano concert piece - wonderful Guy. I am going to pick up this library but can you do some strings alone - by each section? I'd really would like to hear the tone of the cellos.

Great job once again.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 15:10
by wolfgang
Joined on Fri, Jun 13 2003, Long Island, NY, Posts 134
outstanding work Guy.
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 16:29
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391
Guy,

Did you use lower velocities for this demo? If so, do the higher velocities have a bit more high end? It sounds a lot rounder than the other VSL libraries.

Did you roll off or in any way adjust the highs? Perhaps you could comment on the making of this demo.

Thanks,
Jack


edit: I'm referring to the strings only demo here.
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Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 17:34
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
drew buchan wrote:
Lovely.

Has any processing has been applied, or are these the raw sounds?


drew,

These are the raw sounds aside from altiverb.
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 17:36
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
Jack Weaver wrote:
Guy,

Did you use lower velocities for this demo? If so, do the higher velocities have a bit more high end? It sounds a lot rounder than the other VSL libraries.

Did you roll off or in any way adjust the highs? Perhaps you could comment on the making of this demo.

Thanks,
Jack


edit: I'm referring to the strings only demo here.



The main core of the appa demo is the cellos, the velo varies between 20-90, the violin goes higher in the upper melody. I didn't change the eq.
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 17:43
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
What I found highly interesting aside from the richer sound is having leg and porta on the same patch, this makes it very convenient to go from leg to porta back to leg.
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 17:45
by deswind
Joined on Fri, Jan 19 2007, Posts 30
Guy - are you running on a 64 bit platform? I assume the 64 bit syncrosoft driver, etc?
THANKS.
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 17:56
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
Rob Elliott wrote:
can you do some strings alone - by each section? I'd really would like to hear the tone of the cellos.


Rob


If you're nice.... [Wink]
Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 18:53
by svonkampen
Joined on Wed, Jan 05 2005, San Diego, California, Posts 828
Guy

Celli sound outstanding....

People don't be shy in applying liberal amounts of H-Shelving @ 9 Khz (like 6 to 8 db) on strings of VSL in general (except on Con Sords)

big boys do that all the time.....

(I really like the string piece)

yeah Wink

Vienna .....great celli

SvK
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Posted on Fri, Jan 26 2007 19:19
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1660
svonkampen wrote:
Guy

Celli sound outstanding....

People don't be shy in applying liberal amounts of H-Shelving @ 9 Khz (like 6 to 8 db) on strings of VSL in general (except on Con Sords)

big boys do that all the time.....

(I really like the string piece)

yeah Wink

Vienna .....great celli

SvK



For sure - really cuts through a mix.


Guy - I am always nice!!!!!



--I also love the Port and reg legato on the same patch (KS - A0/B0) Brilliant idea!!!!


(just ordered mine)---Where is it, it is not here yet


Rob Crying
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Posted on Sat, Jan 27 2007 02:45
by Mephisto
Joined on Mon, Nov 14 2005, Québec, Posts 27
your Piano concerto sound like a genetik manipulation of Liszt,Bhrams and Wagner
having a party in the same SPA ! ooooo !

ok just kidding...you use the piano on is best side...i mean..sharp,snappy and
firework...but the pianissimo lack some presence..but again that piece show
your skill as a pianist and composer and the orchestration sound beefy and juicy
hum...wow !

keep going..you got it !

Mephisto Devil
Posted on Sat, Jan 27 2007 05:28
by mpower88
Joined on Thu, Aug 12 2004, Posts 729
Great job on both of these demo's guy - the Appa strings one is my favourite!

I think this demo showcases the piano much better than the classical pieces I don't know why, I find this much more interesting to listen to than the moonlight or mozart - perhaps there is more freedom in your performance on original pieces?? I've said that before I know and not as a critisism... but the piano sounds brilliant here. This really is a great piano sound you know - quite astounding, I would go so far as to say, from my experience (and I havne't heard all possible sampled pianos out there) as a classical instrument, this is the best piano I've heard ever - and naturally true to it's intention it blends perfectly with the rest of the VSL library... cool! It really sounds like a recording but still has that studio gloss on the attacks as well and sits inside reverb perfectly - and there is a real depth in the image too which I think is coming from the piano not the reverb. So congrats Guy for the demo and VSL for the piano and instruments. The Appa strings are especially hollywood aren't they (in the best sense). Great!

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Posted on Sun, Jan 28 2007 13:55
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1998
Thanks Miklos for your usual generous compliments, it's always a pleasure to hear positive feedback like that and I'll take it any day, even Sundays! Wink
Posted on Sun, Jan 28 2007 22:07
by mpower88
Joined on Thu, Aug 12 2004, Posts 729
Big Smile
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Almost the Full Vienna Collection.
SSL 2 Interface. Adam Audio S3A monitors
One half of Seraphonica.
Posted on Thu, Feb 01 2007 23:48
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622
Guy sent us the final version of his official Appassionata Strings demo.
It's divided into three parts.
First one is a slightly revised version of the previous April Farewell demo.
Second part features a lot of different articulations, and the third part is based on clusters and random pizzicato effects.

Sunset, Dream and Nightmare!
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=12&DemoId=4991

The second demo
Anaheim Appassionatas
http://vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=13&DemoId=4992

was our official demo at NAMM show, composed by Christian Kardeis.
It features the Appassionata Strings with orchestral accompainement.
This demo was featured at the show running live as midifile in Logic on one computer.

Thanks a lot Guy and Christian!
Posted on Fri, Feb 02 2007 00:44
by Sangit
Joined on Tue, Mar 14 2006, Heilbronn, Germany, Posts 146
that midifile would sure be interesting to see Smile
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