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1.Is there a way to split the keyboard like in Smart Orchestra? 4/29/2023 7:48:46 PM
Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post
You must use Vienna Ensemble to create a multitimbral instrument. Then, you'll have to set a range for each of the patches in the Synchron Player. In the end, save the Vienna Ensemble project as your new instrument, or a DAW project containing it.
Paolo


Hi Paolo!
Thanks for the advice, great!
Best,
Anders
2.Is there a way to split the keyboard like in Smart Orchestra? 4/28/2023 5:02:57 PM

Hi! 

I wonder if there's a method to split the keyboard within Synchron Player (or Vienna Instruments pro)  and having several instruments loaded at the same time, like in Smart Orchestra? I wish to have for instance the instruments of a string quartet loaded at the same time with overlapping tessituras for instant sketching. Does anyone know? 

3.Dimension strings and Finale 3/22/2023 9:15:15 AM

Hi again, 

Yes I discovered it today, great! 
Until now I created combined patches (Synchr. SE patches with some slots from Dimension Str.) to be used with HumanPlayback prefs: VSL - SYzd Special Edition, played as Standard, and it seems to work quite well and I hope it will save me hours instead of working entirely with Keyswitches. 

Andi, thanks for all help! 

Best, 

Anders 

4.Dimension strings and Finale 3/21/2023 5:23:37 PM

Hi again, Andi!  

yes, I saw that offer which made me dissapointed for not discovering it before, since I bought the Dimension Strings I just month ago for 395 €. Just one of my miscalculations. 

However, I have a question concerning the samples in Dimension Strings. There seems to be a considerable difference in volume between short notes and long notes in general. Is there a possibility to adjust the volumes of the samples? 

 

Best, 

Anders 

5.Dimension strings and Finale 3/21/2023 10:23:43 AM

Hi Andi, 

Just want you to let you know that I'm started to work on a modified HumanPlayback Prefs using the Synchronised  version for Special Edition and it's hardly a rocket science ;) but it will save a lot of time instead of working only with the Keyswitches for every playing technique. Then only the limits of the fantasy can prevent me from extend the playing techniques of Dimension Strings by using samples from the Special Edition to complete what's lacking in the Dimension Strings I (hey, why are there no trills or sulpont.? ). ;) 

All the best, 

Anders 

6.Dimension strings and Finale 3/20/2023 3:58:48 PM

Hi again Andy and Bill! 

Just started to work again after I managed to localise the error preventing me to open the VEPro (and the rest of apps) - it was something wrong with the iLok Manager. 
However, I see now what you mean about the Keyswitch dump as an expression library and starts to wondering if it not possible to construct a HumanPlayback Prefs library suitable for Dimensions strings? Because it's a lot more work to put articulations, playing technique etc. by only using Key switches. Ill will give it a try, since the benefit of the Synchronised Keyswitches and HPPrefs is that it automatically switches between different articulations. 

Anyway, thanks for your help! 

Best regards, 

Anders 

7.Dimension strings and Finale 3/20/2023 10:14:36 AM

Hi Andi, 

starting to grasp this now.. ;) However, I've encountered a different problem this morning - I can't open VEPro7 any longer! I've mailed about this to the support. 

 

Sometimes life is complicated... '

 

All the best, 

Anders 

8.Dimension strings and Finale 3/19/2023 7:35:41 PM
Hi Bill!
So the Human Playback in Finale does not work in Dimension Strings, and that it should be turned off? Is that what you and Andi suggests?
Then why did it work for me to let change the previous SE Library with solostrings to the Dimension Strings with the Synchronized keyswitches on in a previous composed string octet with good sound but now with a lot of troubles with the new string quartet I’m working on. And today when I opened the String Octet again it sounded weird?
I’ll try to turn of the HP by putting its mode to ”None”, that’s right? Then what to do with the loaded Synchronized Keyswitches - delete them?
Best,
Anders
9.Dimension strings and Finale 3/19/2023 4:28:46 PM

Hi Bill! 

Please read what I've been discussing about! I know what I'm talking about since I've been working with Finale since 1992. I am referring to Human Playback Prefs. in the Settings and/or Playback Controls menues and nothing else.

The discussion is about how to load the updated version of the Keyswitch Dumps and the reason why I cannot see it in the HumanPlaybackPrefs and therefore cannot chose nor edit it from the Human Playback prefs window. 

/Anders 

10.Dimension strings and Finale 3/19/2023 2:29:10 PM

Hi Andi! 
Yes, I have the "VSL SYzd Special Edition" loaded since I cannot load the one you recommended! The only one I can load is the 2014 version of F2014_VSL-SE_HumanPlayback_v1. When I try to load the one you recommend, the VSL Keyswitch Dump.lib from October 22 I see the key switches in a new file get loaded but I cannot chose it in the Human Playback Prefs, since it is not present in the menu. 

What am I doing wrong? Do I have to delete all other Key switches lib.? 

All the best, 

 

Anders 

11.Dimension strings and Finale 3/18/2023 2:58:32 PM

Hi again, Andi! 

Thanks for your reply! Yes, I guess that the changes were caused by some other error. However, I noticed that loading the library you recommended does not improve anything. So I thought that maybe since I loaded the older Keyswitch dump library and had it installed, I deleted that in the HP-settings and tried to load the recent one you recommended. Strange enough, it didn't got loaded in Finale, even if I followed the instructions carefully. So, now I got only the loaded Keyswitchlibrary for Synchronised SE. Am I doing something wrong here? 

EDIT: I followed the instructions for KeySwitch for Finale 2014 and managed to get it back in Finale and I did the similar to the one you recommended and it was loaded too, at least I thing it was. However, when I compare the 2014 version and the (eventually) new one, they are identical or am I wrong?

Best, 

Anders 

These are my present settings now: 

12.Dimension strings and Finale 3/17/2023 6:14:31 PM

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hi Anders!

Yes, that's the one that I ment.

Best,
Andi

 

It must be something wrong with that Keyswitc library, after I checked back the key switch library for Synchronised SE, it was impossible to get any sound from it. It turned out that all note durations were changed, so I have to get it all over again and restoring to its initial values. 
Hopefully, you'll come up with something useful tip? 
Is there a difference between the one you recommended and the earlier key switch dump library (from 2012)? Since they both have the same name it's a little confusing maybe for Finale? 

 

Best, 

Anders 

13.Dimension strings and Finale 3/17/2023 6:09:18 PM

Hi Bill! 
Well, that's is not the issue here, and when I checked both Finale and Synchron uses the same c4 as middle C. 

Best, 

Anders 

14.Dimension strings and Finale 3/17/2023 2:49:11 PM

Hi Andi, 
I downloaded the key switch library, but the playback performance of the piece (for string quartet) I'm working on became even more strange: the piano become forte and all the playing technique were weird, long notes marcato instead of short notes with short detachés. It got all mixed up! Maybe I should use something else than the Vel.XF Sus? 

Best, 

Anders 

15.Dimension strings and Finale 3/16/2023 6:16:22 PM

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello Anders!

The SYzd Special Edition Human Playback Preferences only work with our SYNCHRON-ized Special Edition libraries. They don't work with any other library. If you want to use SYNCHRON-ized Dimension Strings with Finale, you could use the keyswitch dump file that we provide for changing articulations. This file can be downloaded with Vienna Assistant under Additionals/Notation.

Best regards,
Andi

Hi again, 
I guess it is the library called ¨Finale 25-27: Keyswitch Dump for all VSL libraries ¨ that I have to download? 
Best, 
Anders 

16.Dimension strings and Finale 3/16/2023 4:37:03 PM

Hi, 

and thanks, Andi!

17.Dimension strings and Finale 3/16/2023 3:55:27 PM

Hi! 
I've encountered some problems with Finale and Synchron Dimension Strings and by using key switches: It seems that the SDS responds different compare to other VSL string libraries (synchronised SE) and sometimes it doesn't even recognize the dynamic markings. Question: Is there a special key switch map to be loaded in Finale's preferences, instead of the VSL - SYzd Special Edition key switch map? 

18.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 10/1/2022 9:48:43 AM

Hi Macker, 

and thanks for your advice about DearReality's free plug-in Micro 3D! I'll try it at once. 

All the best, 

Anders 

19.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/28/2022 11:15:16 AM

Okay, but what about the other questions I put above? 

20.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/28/2022 9:02:45 AM

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post

Sidenote for the occasional reader with VST-based hosts: Dear VR Monitor comes in VST3 flavour only, so there's no possibility to use it ATM within VE Pro anyway.

 

What does ATM stands for? 

21.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/28/2022 8:50:01 AM

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42 Go to Quoted Post

Does Finale even support surround mixing?  I doubt it.

Can VePro be run in surround mode even when the DAW is in stereo? 

I didn't think so...but anyway this would be a situation where that would be advantageous as then you could do the surround mix in VePro, using  dearVRmonitor to reduce it back to binaural stereo before returning back to the stereo-only DAW. 

Though also I have to say for this situation, do you really need 3D while working in Finale?

Why shouldn't I need 3D? Working with Finale has nothing to do with the distribution of sound. 

22.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/28/2022 8:41:26 AM

Hi, 

Finale is a notation software only and works with VEPro and all those sampling libraries from VSL and others. It distributes midi info to other software like VSL and VEPro and MIR Pro which in its turn transform these midi to sound.

23.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/28/2022 8:34:43 AM

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post

I see two problems in your screenshots:

- You're working in a stereo instance of VE Pro (... judging from the panning devices). There's no possibility to do surround or 3D audio in stereo channels.

- In almost all possible scenarios, you are better off using the binauralizer as the last instance of your monitoring chain, i.e. most likely in the monitor path of your audio workstation. 

Sidenote for the occasional reader with VST-based hosts: Dear VR Monitor comes in VST3 flavour only, so there's no possibility to use it ATM within VE Pro anyway.

Hi again, 

You're right that some of my channels are set in stereo, but some are off stereo mode. I can change that post FX of stereo panning to dearVRmonitor, but without any result. So after watching these video tutorials, I first now realize that I payed for something that I cannot use in my daily work - frankly, it could be more pronounced that dearVRMonitor does not work within VEPro and that you have to work with sequencer/DAW to use it!
Is there any chance of getting VEPro to work in ¨VST3 flavour¨ in future? 

Best, 
Anders

24.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/27/2022 10:21:15 AM

Hi Dietz, 

and tanks for your reply! Yes, I've seen those tutorials before and watched them again yesterday, but they don't helped me to solve my problem of not getting immersive surround out of dear VR Monitor. I must add that I'm not working with Logic Pro or another sequencer program. but I'm working with Finale and VEPro/MirPro 3D as output. 
When I'm trying to set dear VR Monitor as a FX-plugin or as a Post FX-plugin I only get two channel stereo, even if I've chosen the multichannel/Immersive output in MIR Pro (see attached files):

25.How to use dear VR Monitor together with VE and MirPro3D? 9/26/2022 12:32:10 PM

Hi! 

I am a new user of dear VR Monitor and I am trying to figure out of how to use it. As I understand, I can use it either as a FX plugin or a Post FX plugin in VE pro, but when I set up this, I only get a two channel stereo monitor with dear VR Monitor, despite that I selected 5.(1).4 - Mir 3DHOA DnMx as the main microphone - what am I doing wrong? 

Best, 

Anders 

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