Thanks for pointing out that VST3 will not support program changes.



Will VI Pro 2 have a way to implement changing matrix cells with a button press from a controller or do you have any suggestions on how to do this more elegantly than my crude workarounds? Thank you

Hi

It would be great if VI Pro had the ability to assign a program change number to each matrix cell, since nearly all control surface buttons can send program change commands. I prefer using my left hand to change matrix cells. Right now I use workarounds to do this.


See my workaround for selecting matrix cells with a single control surface button. - from Composer321 here:

http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/28126.aspx

The best solution would be the ability to assign a program change number to each matrix cell, since nearly all control surface buttons can send program change commands.I am hoping this will be implemented at some point in VI Pro.

Maybe VI pro 2 will make it easier

Hi
I have a few workarounds that might help you.


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Method 1 (This method will allow you to assign each of up to 23 buttons on your control surface to a matrix cell.)
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1 Create a 12 X 12 matrix. Assign both X & Y to the same controller (a controller you won't be using for anything else.)
2 Arrange all Matrix control bars for the X axis to fit into the left half of the X-axis grid.
3 Arrange all Matrix control bars for the y axis to fit into the right half of the Y-axis grid.
4 Be sure the right most control bar in the X axis is to the left of the left most control bar in the y axis.


5.Place the articulations you want to use in the top row and in the last column of the matrix.
Now simply assign each button on your midi control surface to send a controller value using the controller you assigned in step 1.


The approximate values will be something like the ones below. The values will vary slightly depending on the spacing of the matrix control bars.


Button 1 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 0 (Selects Matrix cell A1)
Button 2 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 3 (Selects Matrix cell A2)
Button 3 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 7(Selects Matrix cell A3)
Button 4 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 13(Selects Matrix cell A4)
Button 5 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 22(Selects Matrix cell A5)
Button 6 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 26(Selects Matrix cell A6)
Button 7 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 36(Selects Matrix cell A7)
etc...
Button 11 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 57(Selects Matrix cell A11)
Button 12 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 62(Selects Matrix cell A12)



At this point, you will be at the end of the right edge of the matrix and the
numeric values will start moving through the Y axis so the direction is down
the control.
Button 13 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 70(Selects Matrix cell B12)
Button 14 on your control surface = Send CCx value of 82(Selects Matrix cell C12)
etc


How it works...
When you press buttons that send lower numeric values, the y axis remain static at 0
so as you increment numerically the cells move left to right in the same row,
because of the arrangement of the matrix control bars.


When you reach the middle numeric values, those values effect the y axis while X axis remain static at a
value of about 62... again this because of how the matrix control bars are arranged.


This method will waste most of the matrix cells, but who cares. You will be able to select one articulation per button.
...up to 23


I've been using this method for some time. Once it is setup it's seamless.


I worked this out so I could play with my right hand and change articulation easily and intuitively with my left hand.


If this is confusing, I could insert a screen shot of the matrix X/Y axis grid, if someone would kindly tell how to insert a graphic image.



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Method 2 - This will allow you use up to 128 buttons to select 128 articulations
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Simply add up to 128 matrices to a preset.
Make each matrix consist of only one cell.
Assign each button on your midi controller to send a program change.


Button 1 send prog change 1 to select matrix 1.
Button 2 send prog change 2 to select matrix 2.
Button 3 send prog change 3 to select matrix 3.
etc


I would be interested to hear feedback on these methods. Are they flawed in some way that I have overlooked?

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I created setups in a singles cell consisting to two patches. One low range instrument patch (example violin legato) and one high range instruments (example cello legato). I used the volume curves to limit the range of each patch to create a split. Parts of the range of each instrument are inaudible.



My question, is there a way to make VI Pro load samples for only PART of the range of a patch. In this case, a lot a ram would be saved if the inaudible parts of the violin and the cello could not be loaded.




Thank you

Hi



I was about to purchase Brass I standard. I'll be able to get Brass I extended for free with the current sale.



Now that Vienna Dimension Brass is available, I am undecided as to which library to purchase as I can only only afford one at this time.


Would anyone like to offer an opinion on which library might be more valuable as the first brass library purchase.

Hi




I know the Optimize feature removes any used midi notes.

Does the Optimize feature also remove any unused velocity layers for the notes that are used?






thanks

Hi


Does the optimize feature remove unused notes or unused notes and unused velocity layers?


Thanks

I think i found an easier work around. It refreshes if you save a preset

Great ! I was referring to VI Pro. How do you refresh the Browser

Hi




Is there a way to refresh the browser for the VSL Custom Data.
I add folders, rearrange files etc in Windows Explorer while VI is open and I want to refresh the browser so I can see my changes.

Hi


Is it better to layer sounds in a cell using (adjacent A B slots) or (slots in the same column). This question applies to non auto voicing cells.

Hi


In VI Pro, is it possible to set the volume for an entire cell while retaining that cell's relative slot volumes?

I am layering certain sounds to get the sound I want by using multiple slots in a cell...

but then I want to change that cell's overall volume to match the volume of other cells.


So is there a global cell volume control?

Hi




Is it possible to automate interval mode, with a control change either at the global level or the cell slot level?


mono | poly | Global


Thanks

Hi


I would to express to the VSL team how thrilled I am by Vienna Instruments Pro. IMHO it's an exponential leap in functionally and sound shaping. I'd also like to offer some suggestions for future updates,


My favorite features are:


Sample Start: I always thought that many of the legato transition sounds were too loud. This feature solves the problem perfectly. Together with Interval Threshold, I can now shape the transitions any way I want.


Humanize: Great !


Polyphonic Legato: Great !


Auto Voicing.: Great !


EQ: Very useful.


I have a few suggestions for future updates.

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Chorusing when using the xFade

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I detect a chorusing when using the xFade. It's caused by two different sounds playing at the same time at the cross fade point. It's most noticeable when playing solo instruments.


This seems to be a common problem when cross fading samples. I've noticed it in other software like cross fades in Kontakt.


I would be great if there was a way to minimize this chorusing effect.


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Interface readability

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The interface is fine except the text color tends to blend into the background color making it I bit hard to read the characters at times. If the text color was very dark or black, I believe it would easier to read.




Thanks again for the great creative tools.

Hi

I am very excited about the new possibilities with VI Pro. It seems too good to be true!


I have a few quick question.

In VI Free, I saved and loaded my Presets from a folder other than the default folder, which is:"

"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\VSL Custom Data"
by using the File menu. I actually saved my presets on a completely different drive.


VI Pro does not have a file menu in Standalone mode. Does that mean it is only possible to save a preset to the default "VSL Custom Data" folder and not anywhere else like on a different drive when in Standalone mode?


For VI Pro, in Plugin mode, this is not a problem because I can use the generic VST menu to save presets anywhere I want



Another question I have is:

For downloaded instruments, is it OK to delete the Cab files and info file after the data has been installed?

And if i need to reinstalled if my machine goes down, can I just copy the .dat to my Vienna folder and scan it with directory manager or do I have to install using the cab file and the Library Installer?




Thank you

Hi


I like using a slider or pedal to control xFade of velocity layers. It's a very expressive way to use VI.



I noticed that as the velocity layer cross fade into each other, at certain points where the Vel layer are overlapping there is a chorusing effect. This is more noticeable with solo instruments of coarse and less noticeable with string sections. It's also more noticeable with certain patches. The chorusing effect also happens when cross fading cells. This also happens in Kontakt when cross fading velocity layers. This seems to be inevitable because two different sounds are playing at the same time at the cross fade point.



My workaround is to turn off xFade for solo instruments.



I am curious if other VI users notice the chorusing effect and what they do about it.



Thanks for any feedback.

Did you mean to say, "resave the matrix with the desired name, and then load it again"



thanks

Hi


I like to save presets instead of matrices because the preset stores all the controller settings.


I was wondering, when working in a preset, is there a way to rename a matrix?

Hi


Will the forthcoming VI Pro be able to load user created Matrices and Presets created in VI free version?


Please say yes ! ?