Hello Paul

Many thanks for your reply

You gave me a good suggestion having my VI lib with eLicenser an the Synchron libs with Ilok.

It is avoiding me to buy the extra SSD

Not putting all the eggs in the same basket is better.

GOOD NEW

EastWest allow me to recover my licences that where on the Faulty Ilok 1 for free

Best regards

Cyril

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hello Cyril,

There are many SSD tests out there, what's important for streaming our samples is the random read speed of small files for one thread. We cannot test all available options on the quickly-changing market, but there are many tests and comparisons out there. 

You can mix eLicenser and iLok for different "Player groups", so you could stick to eLicenser with all VI Collections and switch to iLok with all collections that work with the Synchron Player. 

You can NOT mix eLicenser and iLok libraries that use the same player. It's either-or. 

This is all explained in out extensive iLok videos and FAQs. 

Best, 
Paul

Hello Paul

A shop found me an external SSD but it is very expensive, it is the 

Can you answer to my questions before I buy it

I am going to the shop on Monday or Tuesday to check the speed.

If I decide to stay with the eLicenser with the libs I have already bought and to go with the Ilok with the new libs what it is going to happened ? can it be a solution ?

Kind regards

Cyril

P.S. I had an answer from Ilok ; they want me to pay ! 

Hello Paul,

1) How old is your iLok 1?

My Ilok 1 is as old as my first eLicenser 

2 )Did you get Zero Downtime for it?

no, what for, it has been working fine for many years (my feeling is that Ilok has disable the Ilok 1 since a few month, hope I am wrong and they will move my licenses to my new Ilok for free)

1) If you have your Ilok licenses on the Cloud when are the licences checked ?

A: Licenses are checked every now and then, you need a permanent internet connection. 

I have understand that you need a permanent internet connexion.

If the Ilok is not as reliable as the eLicenser there are 2 solution :

• a) Stay with eLicenser
• b) Use le Cloud solution

Will you be kind enough to give more detail i.e. If you check the licenses when you hit Play or when you Play the piece it is going to put overhead at the worse times and we will comme back to problems we had before !!!!!

If you check the licenses when you load or save a song the overhead does not have an importance, we can wait a few seconds more 

Today I am very happy with the eLicenser, it is very reliable ; one of mine is still working after having a go in the washing machine for a long white wash. I also been bend by the fall of my MacBook Pro on the eLicenser on the floor from my high bed.

VSL is working very well with large orchestrations on my 64 GB MacBook Pro and my 4 TB SSD, very little CPU load (I use VI) 

2) Could it occur overhead when you have plenty licenses as I have?

A: The number of licenses does not matter. 

Tip: You can give it a try FOR FREE 

I have more than 40 licenses to check so it is taking time, specially when you have a poor Internet connexion (At home I have the fibber optic, but the I go on holidays in hotels the WIFI is most of the time very slow)

I have 1.5 TB of VSL samples to re-download, it is not a simple task and I have to buy an External SSD as fast as the one that is in my Mac Book Pro (2600 MB/s) because I have only 941 GB free on my Internal SSD (I also have 500 GB of other libs)

I just bought a new SSD solution but it is only 500 MB/s   (I will be very happy if you can give me advise for a fast SSD)

I know you have been thinking and posting about this transition for more than half a year now. How many bad experiences did you find in our forum (mind you: from literally thousands of users who already switched to iLok)?

From our perspective, this switch went really well and we're more than happy with the performance and services of iLok.

I have been following this subject. 

I don't know how many large user you have like me ; if they could chime to this conversation it will be great.

Now I have a very stabilised configuration and I am VERY HAPPY WITH VSL so I am very scared to go for problems !

Do not forget I have been a develloper in many language and also a Telecom specialist on huge computers : IBM, DEC, Burrough, on a network of 200 x Wang, Cash Registers, IBM PCs and Unix computers) in an organisation handling 2500 users, and this for years. 

I spend a lot of time and money to have a reliable orchestral solution.

Thanks for you time

Best

Cyril

Hello

Before to decide to move to Ilok you better wait.

I have an Ilok 1 containing EW Choir licences ; the green light is on but it is not recognised by the Ilok licenser STRANGE !!!

I have bought a new Ilok for the VSL licenses

Reporting my problem Ilok told me to fill a RMA and this RMA want to charge me 49,99 $, just to move my EW licences to my new Ilok !

I have eLicenser dongle bought at the same time that is still working !

I will keep you inform to my transaction with Ilok team

So I am waiting to move to Ilok

Question to VSL :
If you have your Ilok licenses on the Cloud when are the licences checked ?

Could it occur overhead when you have plenty licenses as I have ?

If the Cloud is down are you p..... o. 

Best 

Cyril

Hi

Very good work.

If you want to have success you must have a repeated theme all along your piece that a user could remember.

There are start of themes but you must develop them.

Listen to the New world symphony of Anton Dvorak, to Vangelis

How long did it take to you to write this piece ?

Congratulation

Cyril

So the Ilok protection does not improve user use of VSL

It is even worse as you have re-download all your libs

Having 1.53 TB of VSL Libs it is going to take a HELL of a time, also I will need to buy and extra disk to move the eLicenced files

THIS IS NOT A PRESENT 

Best 

Cyril

Originally Posted by: Andreas8420

Hi Cyril,

You can move your licenses freely between your iLOK account, the iLOK Cloud, or an iLOK key - but an active internet connection is required for moving licenses between locations. To avoid misunderstandings: You can not have the licenses on the key and in the cloud at the same time. You have to move it between locations.

Please check out our iLOK FAQs:
https://www.vsl.info/en/tutorials/faqs/ilok

If you plan on working offline, then using an iLOK key is the more comfortable option. The licenses are regularly checked every few minutes - also while using your products. You can not start your song once, and then keep working without a license.

Best regards,
Andreas

Can somebody at VSL answer to my questions ?

Originally Posted by: Dietz

No, I can't, I always use dongles.

Originally Posted by: Dietz

There's always the possibility to use an iLok (hardware) if you have issues with your internet connection. 

Hi Dietz,

Can you have your licenses on the Cloud and on the Ilok ?

Can you answer to my question so we know where we are going ?

Thanks

Cyril

Originally Posted by: Andreas8420

Hi Cyril,

You won't be able to continue working on that song at all.

Best regards,
Andreas

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for your answer.

So I cannot work in a plane, neither in a train !

If there is an internet cut at home will it be the same ?

How often is VSL checking for the licences ?

During paying too  or just when you load the song ?

Best

Cyril

Originally Posted by: Oceanview

Hello VSL,

I can't find the link to be able to see crossgrade prices for changing from VI Flute 1, French Oboe, Cor Anglais and Clarinet Bb 1 to the synchronized equivalent. There are prices for the additional woddwinds bundle but not within the main woodwind bundle, where a click on the instrument names doesn't lead anywhere.

Many thanks.

Log on your account, select the synchro instrument, you will see it price on the left and deduction as you are already owning the VI version.

Say :

I chose the iCloud protection.

I work on a song from home where I have Internet over fiberoptic.

I go somewhere where there is no Internet what is it happening ?

How long can I use the song without having the message that my computer is not licensed ?

Best

Cyril

Originally Posted by: ANeeman

This is the fastest way to lose customers.

Who cares? One more or less...

I have not move to Ilok yet because I am very scared !

At the moment I have lost two licences of the EW choir on an Ilok 1

The solution I have adopt is to spread my libraries over 2 dongles !

It is true that VSL are maniacs about protection. Their libs where  pirated when they start.

I am still waiting for one old lib to be used with eLicenser !!!!!

Originally Posted by: Andreas8420

Hi Cyril!
I suggest you use a separate partition for now

Hi Andreas

I have try to install a second version of Mac OS on another partition a few years ago, I lost everything 

So I will wait

Thanks

Kind regards

Cyril

Hello

Just to share my experience.

I decide to offer my Mac the latest Ilok dongle to receive my VSL licenses.

I Have an Ilok 1 dongle containing the licences of EW Choir.

I wanted to transfer those licences en my new Ilok, no way my Old Ilok is not anymore recognised 

Has anybody experienced this problem ?

Best

Cyril

On Mac you get less CPU load if you use AU/VI instrument

Originally Posted by: jesus_calderon_679

PLEASE, Vienna, update VEP7 ho host VST3.

It's a shame that now we can't use Kontakt 7 as VST (the most used tool for media composers in the world) in your software. We need an EAT as soon as possible. Big disappointment and frustration.

do not use VEP in the meanwhile

use the Kontakt inside your DAW

Originally Posted by: Bill

Yes, confirmed. VST3, AU, AXX only

Hi Beat

Thank you very much your site is great.

Best

Cyril

Bonjour C

Je me permet de te tutoyer, j'espère que cela ne te dérange pas.

Merci de ta réponse.

Toutes mes instance de la Vienna sont aussi dans Logic. J'ai depuis des années prôné cette méthode car cela permet de répartir les instruments sur toute les instances des processeurs de ton Mac. On a plus le problème qu'un seul processeur dans Logic supporte touts les instruments qui vont dans VEP 

Voici quelques question :

1) est ce que tout les morceaux écris dans Logic sont compatible, sans les avoir à les modifier, avec Ilok ; qu'il utilise les VI et/ou les VEP ?

2) est ce que tout les morceaux écris dans Dorico sont compatible, sans les avoir à les modifier, avec Ilok ?

3) tu dis : "il faut éviter que l'ancien système eLicence soit actif en même temps que iLok."

Peux tu développer ?

Est-ce que cela veux dire qu'il faut attendre d'avoir téléchargé toute les instruments "Ilok" pour pouvoir ré-utiliser la Vienna ?

J'ai 1,5 To d'instrument VSL ; quasiment la moitié en format VI et l'autre en format Synchron !!!!!

N'ayant que 680 GB de libre sur mon MacBook Pro je vais être obligé de les déplacer sur un disque externe

Je travail en ce moment sur une chanson avec son clip. Elle est bilingue et à beaucoup de pistes VSL (VI et Synchron) . Cette chanson à une soixantaine de piste donc ce n'est pas le moment de bricoler car j'ai juste à peaufiner le mixage et à rendre la video Bilingue.

4) As tu mis tes licences Ilok dans le Cloud ou les as tu sur un dongle ?

5) Si on met les licenses Ilok sur le Cloud, quand est-ce que VSL les vérifient ? 

Merci beaucoup pour ton temps

Bien cordialement

Cyril

PS : si tu as envie de discuter, mon téléphone est : 01 46 31 86 96

Bonjour

J'ai une grosse librairie VSL, je voudrais discuter en Français sur la migration

Merci d'avance

Cyril

How much Memory do you have in your MacBook Pro ?

Hello

If you search a bit I am sure you will find soul end ethnic libs compatible with Mac OS ;most of the libs are compatible Windows and Mac OS

It depends of the price you are ready to pay.

East West have plenty libs 

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good luck

Originally Posted by: hop

tks for your time.

Hum yes I will consider the Apple as soon as they will have a soul and ethics. We know that there is no end on that topics. hehe.

I just hope to have some PC friends around here. I am quite confident there are softwares working well but I just need a confirmation by user.

Peace ;p

When you think to change PC, get a Mac,

You have a nice music program called Garage Band for free.

I is not as powerful  as Logic but you can do a lot

Originally Posted by: hop

Hello everybody,

I'm just a pianist using VSL synchron piano via the stand alone player and im using a low latency sound drivers on PC named "ASIO".

Windows drivers are not reactive enough (+150ms) for playing.

Everything is wotking fine except that i would like to record my live and the principe of ASIO is to bypass windows mixer so I am unable to do that.

I m not a composer so i dont have any program like cubase, I just tried with a free software audacity wich is very very basic without success.

How do you record with ASIO (or any low latency drivers availble for PC) ? it there some specific settings or cubase or other software can fix that issue ? I'm looking for a basic solution.

Thanks for the help

they are very expensive 

Originally Posted by: GilP

Hello,

You can find Dorico expression maps for VSL VI instruments at Symphonic Riot.

Regards,

Gil.

+1

Originally Posted by: C.B.

Same for me.