Hello Dietz

Thank you for your advise, for the moment I am only using one Musca track.

Originally Posted by: Dietz

 MIR likes the variation that comes from stereo signals triggering individual impulse responses for the left and right channels. The result in most cases sounds "richer" and more pleasing to the listener's ears.

In my previous post I was speaking of the problem of a Drum kit

Do you have a better solution that mine ?

Kind regards

Cyril

Hello Dietz

Thank you so much.

Sorry for the language barrier, I don't know how many French customer you have, but it may be the time to have a support in French too.

I have decide to put the width to zero and the volume to 0db too

I control the volume in Logic and the instrument do not mix together ; so you do not have a 'brouhaha".

With your 96 tracks console, I suppose you use close mics and you mix instruments indidualy

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Hi Cyril,Yes, there are screenshots for all Venue Presets. They are derived from legacy MIR Pro's "MIRx" settings and should look similar to the pictures shown in the MIRx manual:

-> https://www.vsl.info/en/manuals/vienna-instruments-mirx/venue-details/synchron-stage-vienna#sy-stage-wide

This is very help full thanks.

I have a dilemma about placing a Drum Kit as the arms and the legs of the drummer are not long enough 

If you look to the attach picture you are going to have a big laugh 

In a normal mix the instruments of the drum kit are placed from right to left

Do you have a solution ?

 Kind regards

Cyril

P.S. Looking forward to have the MIR manual in One PDF, so it is easy to find what you are looking for and not to bother VSL support.

Hello William

I have decided to trash the mix I did with SY .... instruments

The VI instrument seem much more realistic to my ears

Best

Cyril

Hello Dietz

Please explain in more detail: Are you using Synchron Libraries or Synchron-ized Vienna Instruments?

Before the roles where re-loaded it was sounding great compare to Synchron, very clear 

Where do the Roles you're loading come from?

Synchron Stage a Wide

What's your host, what are you trying to achieve,

Mac 

what are the reproduction steps, and most of all What is it that is disappointing you?

I have decide to use only VI instruments

The woodwinds and the winds are covered by the Brass if you use the volume defined in the Role

Also it looks like there is a placement problem if you use Synchron Stage a Wide, winds and strings are mainly stuck on the center

Do you have a picture of the ideal placement of the instruments when you use Synchron Stage a Wide.

The placement of the choir is in front of the winds, very strange !!!

Thanks in advance for your help

Kind regards

Cyril

P.S. I have review the placement and the volume of the instrument ; it is getting much better 

Hello

After starting a project with Synchron Instruments I have done a second version with VI instruments.

The SY version all there instrument had there width set to zero

Before reloading all the roles the sounds was good 

I have re-load all the roles and now I am a bit disappointed

I am looking for advises

Thanks in advance for your help

Best

Cyril

Hello

Just a silly question, when you use Synchron ... instruments, do they use also have repetitions patches ?

Thanks

Cyril

Hello Beat

I am working on a Pop song with a VSL orchestra (mostly Synchron instruments) on the background with MIR PRO 3D

For the moment I have only EQ the drum kit (not from VSL).

I thought that the instruments of VSL did not need additional EQ, do they ?

Do I have to send my song for mastering before to put it on Itunes ?

After doing a few music for films using synth, it's my first song that I am putting for sale

Thanks in advance for your help

Kind regards

Cyril

Hello Dietz

Can you put the good date because it is confusing  ; 2021 is a long time ago

It will be great if you could put the updates in Vienna Assistant 

I had licenses error that I post at support.

I have put most of my song with the MIR Unprocessed ! GREAT ! MANY THANKS

There are still Syn instrument that do not have the 99 MIR ..... in that song  (seen screen copy)

It will be great if you can set them as well.

Many many Thanks

Cyril

Hello

GREAT !

Very interesting.

If you do not have the full Cube but the most of all major VI libraries will it work ?

Is it possible to integrate it to an existing song ?

Is it possible to have a Video Demo for Logic ?

Best regards

Cyril

I have put my instrument on Bus for each category

Originally Posted by: Rod93

Hi,

I have a problem with SP in Logic, my libraries doesn't appear when I select SP on my tracks

but no problem if I open SP alone

When you start your Mac you must have the iCloud message :

HI

I had this issue, you have to authorise Ilok iCloud app to launch at the startup of your Mac

Originally Posted by: Mavros

I recently had this in Logic and Dorico but I did not check if the standalone version did show the libraries. It turned out that my iCloud iLok was not connected despite that fact I logged-in to the iLok app. Clicking  on the iCloud image in the iLok app solved it.  It sometimes seems to happen when iLok did an update. There is a thread in this forum on the issue.

Hello

If you are having OVERLOAD messages in Logic watch the "swap used" in the app "Activity monitor" / Memory 

It should be equal to zero. If not just keep the apps needed in your music project and close all the other apps and re-boot.

It should stay at zero, if not and you keep having those error try to increase your I/O buffer size in Logic Pref/audio

If your  I/O buffer size is already at 1024 the only solution is to bounce some track and/or increase your's Mac Memory

64 GB if fine for large project and MIR PRO 3D

Look at my screen copy my Swap used is not at zero and I Have those b.... Overload messages

Tell me if those tricks helped 

Cyril

Hello Dietz

Things are more clear now, many thanks.

I am waiting for and answer from support on how to change venue to test the deferent venues.

Correct me if I am wrong, if you change a setting in Mir, it is send back to Logic !

One las question, for a drum what preset will you use ?  "99 MIR Unprocessed" 

Kind regards

Cyril

P.S. Unrelated : 

If you publish a single on iTunes are they trick, do you have to go by a Music publishing company ?

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

[...]I don't understand your answer, Logic store all the instrument characteristic and send them to MIR when you load your song ; MIR send them back to Logic if you adjust there characteristic in MIR, why can't you send the "role" of the instrument when you fill the venue for the first time.

In Logic (and every other conventional host) here is no data connection between Vienna Instruments and MIR 3D other than the audio stream. No way to make MIR aware of the meta-data that would make the "guessing" of the profile possible. VE Pro _has_ this additional connection, though.

Quote:

I like very much the Synchron user interface, this is why I bought them.

Is MIR overriding Synchron instrument setup If you disable there reverb ?

I have understand the Synchron instruments uses VI sample, am I  wrong ? and it is why that the upgrade was very reasonable.

Synchron Instruments rely on samples recorded directly at Synchron Stage Vienna, using multiple microphones in different distances, with "burnt-in" panning and reverb), while the so-called Synchron-IZED Instruments use samples originally recorded at Silent Stage for Vienna Instrument plus individual, hand-crafted impulse responses and panning information for them.

There are dedicated Mixer Presets for them in Synchron Player called "99 MIR Unprocessed" which brings Synchron-ized instruments back to their original, unprocessed state. Use _this_ setting when you plan to put a Synchron-ized source into MIR 3D.

.... here's a comparison of all VSL sample-based products:

-> https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Products

HTH,

Hello Dietz

Thanks for your aswer

Originally Posted by: Dietz

You like to keep us busy over the weekends, don't you? ;-)

It is very nice to have such a quick answer, it is very good support ; thank you

You should rest over the week end otherwise you are going to have a burnout like me (I had 10 burnouts)

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

Since I have discover that with instruments in Logic you have not the problem of Logic using one or two core if you use VI and synchron instrument and that VE is causing more load on the CPU ; I have decide to use VSL instrument IN Logic.

It will be great if you could add the "Guess" function when using MIR PRO 3D instruments in Logic..

That would be great, yes. As soon as Apple allows VSL to implement the code in Logic that allows MIR 3D to "talk" directly with Vienna Instruments plug-ins in the same track we will be able to do this. ... I wouldn't hold my breath, though. 

I don't understand your answer, Logic store all the instrument characteristic and send them to MIR when you load your song ; MIR send them back to Logic if you adjust there characteristic in MIR, why can't you send the "role" of the instrument when you fill the venue for the first time.

It is more than 14 days I have bought all those Synchron and BBO instrument.

I like very much the Synchron user interface, this is why I bought them.

Is MIR overriding Synchron instrument setup If you disable there reverb ?

I have understand the Synchron instruments uses VI sample, am I  wrong ? and it is why that the upgrade was very reasonable.

90 % of my instruments are Synchron and BBO instruments ; can you have VI instruments in MIR and Synchron instrument alone in a song ?

Can you use VI instrument profile in MIR if the reverb is disable

The problem of the manual is you cannot search in the whole manual, many users have ask to have it in PDF !

Watching the great video of Paul : 

It is quite helpful ; I have try changing my venue, but did no managed, see mail send to support !

Today you must rest , I can wait Monday

Thank you again for your support

Kind regards

Cyril

YES

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Interesting, thanks. 

Does this mean that we can mark the issue as "solved" now?

Kind regards,

Hello Dietz

Thanks for your answer.

Since I have discover that with instruments in Logic you have not the problem of Logic using one or two core if you use VI and synchron instrument and that VE is causing more load on the CPU ; I have decide to use VSL instrument IN Logic.

It will be great if you could add the "Guess" function when using MIR PRO 3D instruments in Logic..

If there are no profile for Synchron and BBO instruments in MIR PRO it show that the policy of VSL is not to use those instruments in MIR PRO ; if it is the case nobody will want to buy the Synchron and BBO instrument

Today I have bought a lot of them and I feel that "I have been taken for a ride"

I am using a lot of Synchron and a few BBO instrument in those two song, do I have to remove them and use only VI instruments ?

It will be a good idea to add them if you want to sell more Synchron and BBO instrument ?

Concerning 3)

PS: In a similar vein, this article from summer 2020 covers MIR Pro and its use in pandemic times, too:

-> From Abbey Road to MIR Pro

it is not -> https://youtu.be/jFhZcvGXdDU

See in :  https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t57116-Alan-Meyerson-on-mixing-the-orchestral-score-of--Mank--in-MIR-Pro#post301226

In https://youtu.be/jFhZcvGXdDU the sound is terrible for non English mother tongue when Alan Meyerson is speaking (If you read the comments on that page I am not the only one to complain !)

Concerning 7)

Is there is a tutorial about Mixing with MIR PRO 3D ?

Have a good day

Kind Regards

Cyril

Hello

Je travaille sur un single de deux morceaux de POP symphonique chanté et je recherche un professeur (payé) qui puisse m'aider au mixage en utilisant MIR PRO 3D

Mon mail :

A très bientôt 

Cyril

Hello

1) I could not find the "guess" function that is in MIR PRO ; it's a long work to set all VSL instrument

2) Can you please add Big Band instrument in the instrument profile

3) In the Allan Meyerson post it refers to :

-> From Abbey Road to MIR Pro

The link is not correct

4) Do you have to ban Synchron Stage instrument in your Venue ?

5) Do have to EQ each instrument or do you take the setting in the "Role" ?

6) Do you have to review the setting of the "role" when you have multiple track of an instrument ?

7) For the moment in the two mixes I am working on is a big mess ; when I have multiple instrument playing you cannot distinguish what instrument is playing, what is the solution ?

Thank you very much in advance for your help

Kind regards

Cyril

Hello

I had the solution with Apple.support, ; Apple has a great and free telephone support, they can connect to your Mac to help you.

In the Logic preferences you have to set the audio setting to "system setting"

When your MacBook Pro is "wake up", it will still ask you if you want to use your Iphone as the microphone, just say no and it will not offload and re-load your Mir Venue

Hello

Today when you have a Wifi failure, you get a message from MIR PRO that there is no licence and MIR PRO and Logic are going in a dead loop

When the network is restored the dead loop continues, you have to FORCE QUIT Logic and MIR PRO

THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE !

There should be a message, "lost network" and when the network is restored it should restart !

Checking license should be done only when you load a song

Thanks in advance to fid a solution

Best regards

Cyril

Hello

Since last Mac OS update, you can use your Iphone as a microphone in Logic Pro

This cause a loading, unloading and loading again of your instruments into MIR PRO 3D.

See attached the error messages I get.

Does anybody know the solution ?

Thanks in advance

Best

Cyril

Hello Dietz

When I start that post it was a trick to solve a problem, but finally I came to another problem that I could not solve.

I have post on support the link to this thread

Kind regards

Cyri

Hello

Thank you very much in advance Dietz

Kind regards from France

Cyril

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have brought it to the attention of the developers of VSL and asked them to add it to the list of feature requests.

Kind regards,