Hello Andi,

Thank's for the reply. Yes now it works pretty much correctly. It's weird because my previous score suffered from this articulation triggering issue.

Best regards,

Fixer.

Hello,

I'm fortunate to find this topic because I have some issues with articulation triggering. It happens only with the violins II staves.

I've set a VST (in the playback configuration) that contains :

-Violins 1 midi channel 1

-Violins 2 midi  channel 2

-Viola midi  channel 3

-Celli midi  channel 4

-Double-Bass midi  channel 5

Both Violins 1 and 2 share the same sample (but on different channel to make 2 really different staves).

But here comes the problem. I found that violins 1 articulations on first channel  works perfectly. But violins 2 don't release correctly the articulations patches.

For instance : i draw a legato expression on 4 notes, then nothing on a 5th. But the 5th note still plays a legato (while it should play a sustain). In the other hand, if i draw or write a different articulation on this note (staccato / tremolo / tr), the articulation triggers correctly. Is that a common issue ? I tried to write the "norm" text, but no differences. Changing instrument stave doesn't work either.

edit : "norm" works but it's a bit glitchy, i keep looking for a good solution.

(All the other instruments work without any trouble)

Fixer.

Hello Andi,

thank's for the reply, sorry when i meant types of cymbals, i wasn't actually thinking about gongs / tam tam, but just the crescendo cymbal rolls type. Anyway you gave me the answer.

So i tried the crescendo / fast text techniques + tremolo and it triggers the other articulations i was looking for. I think somehow that the time stretching from pro version would give me more abilities to control the crescendo lengh and note release, but i'll go with that for now.

Best regards,

Fixer

edit : about the castanets and triangles, it is written in the documentation that i can use the 4 / 5 lines of tremolo to trigger the roll. But there are maybe 4 or 5 kinds of different rolls recorded in the library. How should i proceed to use those sounds ? Dictionnary ? Edit instruments in house style ? 

edit 2 : i found the answer myself, i looked into the house style and edited the castanets articulations to make them use the appropriate sounds

Hello,

i'm currently digging up this thread because i meet the same problem. The cymbal rolls (suspended) dynamics doesn't work. Maybe because i'm using the basic instrument version also, not instruments pro.

I know already that i can control in playback -> extensions -> cresc / dim. I tried this but doesn't work either.

Another question while i'm here. The cymbal + chinese gong patch includes 4 more types of suspended cymbal but it seems that it wasn't included in the soundset file for sibelius (or perhaps i miss something because i'm using cymbals a-d and the text number to switch the articulations). Is there a way to play them ?

Kind regards,

Fixer

PS : Using full special edition + extended

Actually, i don't complain about the sound quality of EWQL (which is good) : the brass section and woodwinds are interesting. Though the reason why i'm heading for VSL is about the the strings performance.

I've heard also that the player of VSL ("VI pro" if i'm right) needs less memory than Play... in my view, that's a good point because even if i have 8GB ram, i'm still running low when i use Play.

But what you told me is rather interesting. In fact, if i don't misunderstand, VSL VI pro seems less dependant on the reverb than the samples library of EWQL.

Ok thank's !

Ok, thank's for the tips. I didn't expect so much detailed answers. Looks like the player is a bit technical to use, but it's a matter of time before i can get my hands on it and understand how it works... so i'm not worry about. As i use a score notation software, i don't spend much time on the player settings (just for checking the reverb style or the instruments channel affectations).



Now I have more questions, what's DAW ? And Also, you speak about "VI Pro" : is that the name of the VSL player like "Play" is for EWQL libraries ?

Ok thank's for the reply, i think i'd prefer the SE 1 bundle version before getting the full. I've listened to the audio demos, the instruments sound more "natural" than my actual library, so i'm really interested in getting VSL. Ok for the key and the hard drive.


One more question, what do you mean by

Does that make a real sample quality difference ?


Fixer

Hello !


I'm looking forward to buy VSL but i need some information / advice before i make a decision :-)


I've been using EastWest Symphonic Orchestra Gold edition as VST for some months now... and i discovered some issue with the lengh of the notes with single instruments such as Violins and Violas, and some lack of articulations.


Now that I've experienced that library, i'd like to try VSL.


Considering the fact i'm not professionnal neither i know much about this library^^, i've heard it's better to try VSL special edition V1 (bundle). Seeing which instruments have been recorded in that one and the articulations, maybe i would buy the V2 too for the chamber strings.


Also, I already have an Ilok key, do i need to buy the Vienna Key to make the VST work ?
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/395/561/562/251.htm


Do i need to buy the Hard drive to install the library or is it just optional ? (i guess no but better be sure)
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/2467/2468/2469/2118.htm


As i'm using Sibelius 7, i've seen that VSL has already a soundset for, but i don't see a download package except the .pdf file
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/141/460/576/655.htm


If you have any advice, i'll be thankful :-)


Fixer