Right. the composers I was talking about are doing the tentpole, blockbuster films. No one that I know in film and TV are using vepro anymore, or are in the midst of phasing it out. Abandoned it because it's taken so long to become native, and vsl keeps saying it's right around the corner but then release new instruments? I just don't get it. To add insult to injury, the response to complaints about things on this forum that just get a response like "people seem to really like it" is just another reason that people are bailing on vepro. Too bad because it really was a great and very important piece of our workflow. They obviously don't listen to the voices on here and are oblivious to their customer base.