Originally Posted by: ddas

I'm on a Mac. I created my first VEP7 template, then saved it as a Server Project on my desktop.

When I start up for the day, I double-click on the Server Project, which launches VEP Server, however, it does not load the Server Project.

Why not?

(Common UX behavior on both Mac and PC is for it to open the document that was double-clicked.)

Same thing happens with me. Mac 10.14.6, started happening with 1120.  I am now unable to open any project files at all, and am waiting for a solution from tech support, having submitted loads of crash reports.

I Too have this happen.

The tell-tale grey mid-top msg box that does not clear.

Consider a typical orchestral template in VEPro7 – four instances, winds, brass, percussion, strings, all driven by MIDI from my DAW, all loaded with VSL instruments, and each having its own master output.

If I want to send them all to the same reverb plugin, is there any way I can send the audio from the different instruments to the reverb plug in, so that all the orchestral instruments are in the same reverb ‘place’?

Or Could I for example, create a 5^th instance, call it reverb, and send all my instrument sounds to it?

Yes I know I could probably do this with MIR, but I can’t afford it at the moment.

The VSL video says

“Using the audio outputs of Vienna Ensemble Pro, you can route an audio signal internally. For example to certain buses or back to your sequencer. Again, each sequencer is different in this regard and you will find more information in your Vienna Ensemble Pro manual.

You can also process audio signals from your sequencer. Insert an audio input plugin in the audio track of your sequencer and assign this plugin to the already established Vienna Ensemble Pro connection.”

In the context of MOTU DP, an audio input plugin is presumably an aux bus or an audio track, as they are the only audio carriers? But there is no explanation in the manual of how to connect them, only about how to connect instruments?

I am currently setting up a template in VEPro7 for use with MOTU Digital Performer 9.52 on a Mac 5,1 OS 10.13.6, cpu: 3.46 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, Ram: 32 GB 1333 MHz DDR3.

I have figured out how to set up the MIDI, host the VIs and get the signal back out to DP, all well and good.

Now what I want to do is set up an instance to host my effects, especially power-hungry Aether reverb, but I can’t seem to figure out how to get audio into VEPro7 and back out again – I haven’t found any VSL documentation or videos.

Specifically, what is the difference between a bus and an input channel in VEPro7 ?

Currently I do orchestral reverb all in DP using Aether, which crucially allows the early reflections ER to be separated from the late reflections LR. Thus I use five instances of Aether – 4 set up as ER labelled front, front middle, back middle, back, each with a different pre-delay value, each of which sends its output to the fifth instance set up as LR.

But this really hogs most of my CPU capacity as shown by the DP meter. Would this be possible in VEPro7 ? 

I am setting up VEPro7 for the first time with DP 9.52 on my mac.

I set up the first instance, called Bass, put in four bass libraries, connected them to the VE Pro MAS instance in DP, connected the outputs in the Bass instance in the Server to the aux channels in DP, and success! Upon testing I got the right sounds in the right place coming out in my DP.

Then I switched off and shut down.

Later I tried to set up a second instance in my server, AcGtrs, but when I went into my DP to allocate the VEPro MAS instance, In the DP invitation to connect window, no server instances are shown?

I checked on the first Bass instance, and the connection was all as it should be?

So what have I missed in connecting my second instance?

Are there any manuals or instruction videos about VE 6.5?

I use five instances of VE 6.5, Winds, Brass, Percussion, Keys, Strings. I need to know how to control the windows - sometimes they are tabbed, sometimes they are not, I don't know how or why, and I want to know how to put them together sometimes in a single mixer, like as shown in the picture on the product page?

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Originally Posted by: Gone To Lunch

[....] Because, I would have to buy VE Pro first, which would make the overall cost too high. [...]

Like Dewdman42 wrote above, MIR Pro is first and foremost a plug-in that comes in the three most popular formats, namely VST, AU and AAX:

-> https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Vienna_Software_Package/Vienna_MIR_PRO#!System_Requirements

As a matter of fact, it can also be used as an integral part of Vienna Ensemble, which is especially enticing in case of Vienna Instruments as this host allows for tight integration of all components. VE is not required, though. 

... might be worth a second thought ...? ;-)

I take your point, but given that I would also have to buy the room packs as well, it gets close to 1,000 Euros, which I just don't have.  On your product page there is no list of what comes with the package, and what has to be purchased additionally.

I could not find any demonstration or explanation of how it would work with VE?

Originally Posted by: Dietz

... that said, I wonder why one would even consider Virtual Sound Stage when there's the original concept available from VSL directly, with almost five thousand hand-crafted presets covering more or less every single Vienna Instrument ever released. 8-)

Because, I would have to buy VE Pro first, which would make the overall cost too high.  VSS may indeed be less sophisticated, but it seems to be able to do quite a lot of what I want affordably.

I am thinking about getting Virtual Sound Stage for use with my Vienna Libraries.

Do VSL samples have any actual panning or positioning 'built in' to them, as in how they were recorded, or are they central or neutral?

I have recently put in a new SSD system disk - how do I reconnect to all my instrument libraries that remain on other disks?

I don't have Synchron libraries, I use the older instruments in Vienna Instruments Pro - will they work with the DP 11 articulation maps ?

The new MOTU DP 11 features articulation maps.

Do they work with Vienna Instruments?

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

 I wouldn’t stress about it, the VI instruments are still very very great on their own right.

I am not 'stressing about it'.

I use VI instruments Pro, and have quite a few of them, but not full sets.

I think Synchron interface is better suited to my style of working, so I was just curious how much it might cost me.

Originally Posted by: Lucy

There are Synchron libraries and Synchronised libraries. The Synchronised libraries are VI samples in Synchron format. I believe there is a cross-grade price if you already own the the corresponding VI library.

Yes, I had a look at those, but they seemed to be prices for bundles only, which I don't have.

Are there any plans to make VI Libraries usable in Synchron?

I like the look of the Synchron player, but obviously don't want to buy everything again!

Thanks for that.

But before I read your reply I solved it by re-installing the eLicensor.

I am trying to open a project in Digital Performer 9.52 on my mac OS X 10.13.6

But the file sticks with the msg 'Application Vienna Symphony Library has caused the following error ???'

Then I try using the elicenser maintenance utility which goes into an infinite loop, I tried re-installing eLicenser, but all the same things still happen.

I am struggling with doing a minor scale run in my Flute 2, I have the full set.

At the bottom of p24 of the manual it says 'FL2 Scale runs-legato - Minor',  and there is a simple mapping table.

But I can't find anywhere a patch or matrix labelled 'scale runs' or similar?

So for my Eminor scale II tried just loading a legato patch, and putting a note on E1,  as per the table, but nothing happened?

So I must be missing something?

Problem solved.

I was actually in an old VI, not VI PRO.

"Before climbing the ladder of success, make sure it is leaning on the correct wall."

On p4 of the Harp manual it says :

"and if you like to keep your keyboard free for playing instead of switching, you can disable Preset keyswitching and only use MIDI Program Changes. Vienna Instruments PRO also allows you to define a MIDI Control for Preset keyswitching."

But does not say how or where ?

And it is not in the VI Pro manual either ?

How do I disable preset keyswitching so I can use MIDI control instead ?

Okay, I got it.

It is done by a program change not a CC.

I am using VI Pro 2.4.17960.

How do I assign a MIDI cc value to select a particular matrix ?

I have two matrices and I want to switch between them using CC.

The manual says p18 that

“Matrix Key switches are purple (labelled “1-12”).”

But there are no purple keys on the keyboard display ?

The manual says on p25 

2. Key Switch

Click-drag to set value.

Double-click to edit, enter to accept.

Right-click to enable MIDI-learn.

Right-click several boxes to enable consecutive MIDI-learn.

11. KeySw/PrgCh

Toggles display of program change number or key switch assignment.

Clicking on the prg icon at the bottom of the matrix list puts numbers in the left hand column, but that is all ?

And if that number 2 in the second matrix item is a CC, how does it work with the CC2 in the control map that is allocated to Velocity XF ?

But none of these functions show how or where the assignment done ?

I currently have the freebies VE 6 and the latest VI.

I would like to get VI Pro, but would I be able to use it in my VE 6, or would I have to buy VE Pro as well ?

If so, could I still buy VI Pro and just forget about using VE, ie have all the instruments as stand-alones ?

My DAW is Digital Performer 9.52, OS 10.13.6

What I am seeking is how these actually work.

Once I have attached CC11 or CC2, what is it that they actually do, How they actually change the sound ?  Presumably must be some aspect of how the sample plays back ?