in my opinion, the best "legato" patch in SyStrings at current state of library is no legato patches, but "long notes soft" patch.. It more close to target legato sound, that I want to listen.. I am not see, that "legato blur" feature improves anything..

I finally found optimal mixing mics for playing live with Synchron Strings.

https://youtu.be/XnDgngrca3c

Synchron Strings I Full lies in using with mixing mics I think.

By doing so, I can safely tell you that the sound almost reaches Bigger-than-life.

I didn't invest much time into Synchron Strings up to now (waiting for the complete library) but in my few early tests I didn't hear a release killer. I also have the crossfade sensitivity of all my VSL libraries set to 126 (nearly silence on dynamic CC down). It's right, on decrescendo the room is going down with the samples while in real world the room tail fades later than the instruments. But Synchron Strings do very smooth fades (probably caused by the lot of layers). It's much smoother than in compareable room recorded libraries. And at the end you will add a nice Lexicon tail anyway. This is done in mixes of acoustic recordings as well and isn't really audible but glues together everything. Doesn't need to be wet and washy. Just a tasteful shimmer on top. And it smoothes out all fades. Actually Synchron Strings does the best CC driven 'to silence' fades I heard up to now. Dry libraries included.

Originally Posted by: Paul

I simply HAD to make a Sneak Peek Video when I had the complete Synchron Cellos in my hands... Hope you like it!   Paul

Very well done.

I think so that replacment of portamento with slurred legato is not a good idea. Although most legato technique is required for slurred performance, but no body will be satisfied with slurred legato without any portamento technique..!

Aftermore, I think that at this point a few articulations are missing such as espressivo legato, staccato, marcato and spiccato exposed as well as sul-pont. and sul-tasto..!!!

But it would be great when the VSL would deliver Portamento on top (Vouchers are prepared from my side!)

Hi, 

I simply HAD to make a Sneak Peek Video when I had the complete Synchron Cellos in my hands... Hope you like it!

Our newsletter will be on its way to you soon, with more details about the upcoming release! And of course there will be more videos as well.  

Best, 
Paul

Hi everybody,

Enjoy these first demos of Synchron Strings, made by the wonderful Guy Bacos and Christof Unterberger!

Best, 
Paul

Originally Posted by: HSM1

"...only reason I ever used anyone else was too much better legato script, short note attacks and huge detail sampled short/long articulations, etc. You didn't just take user feedback seriously."

Short note attacks, more articulations, better sound... these things were what drove me to getting some of the libraries you mentioned. I've had enough experience working in software support, UI, product magement, UX, consulting, and even some development (all of which I didn't want to have to learn) that I now have an involuntary quiet chuckle when I hear "take user feedback seriously". This "not listening" thing is a disease. It spreads.

You hit a nerve. lol

As for your articulation list, I couldn't agree more. Synchron has great value without them to be sure. And who knows, we may see them in SS2. But it goes without saying that most everyone would love one library to rule them all. Consistent ensemble samples, playing techniques, and template architecture would make life a lot easier. And if I could have my samples anywhere, I'd have them in VI-Pro by a long shot. I trust Synchron Player will likely live up to the same expectations. I just hope Martin developed it. Years ago I spoke with him and the guy just gets it... completely.

-Sean

Originally Posted by: HSM1

Originally Posted by: fahl5

Originally Posted by: HSM1

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Actually, I do use other libraries such as Berlin Strings, Spitfire Audio Chamber Strings/Symphonic Strings and only reason I ever used anyone else was too much better legato script, short note attacks and huge detail sampled short/long articulations, etc. You didn't just take user feedback seriously.

Have you made decision yet on any usefull articulations as bellow ?

Legato Slurred, Expressive
Legato Agile
Legato Fingered
Ostinato Arpeggio Legato slow/fast

Spiccatissimo
Spiccato
Spiccato Exposed
Staccato
Staccato Bold
Martele FFF
Portato Short
Portato Long
Repetitions slow/fast
Blurred Spiccato
Blurred Staccato
Blurred Portato

Flageolet Sustain
Sustain Soft
Sustain Immediate
Sustain Accented
Sustain Expressive Dyn (Short expr.)
Sustain Expressive Dyn (Long expr.)

Sul Ponticello Leg
Sul Ponticello Tremolo
Sul Ponticello Tremolo Accented
Sul Ponticello Staccato
Sul Ponticello Sustain
Sul Tasto Legato
Sul Tasto Portato Short
Sul Tasto Portato Long
Sul Tasto Sustain Immediate
Sul Tasto Sustain Soft
Sul Tasto Tremolo

Just wait for Synchron-Strings II to have most of the Articulations covered. Synchron-Strings I is of course the basic set.

However it even seems to me that each of the Articulations in Synchron-Strings I has much more "under the hood" that the simple "list" of single artticulations is no longer the right reference to compare.

 

Hopefully in the near future 2025 or 2027, Synchron-Strings version VI probably!

  

Whoah!  I'm impressed.  This guy got a list of articulations from his "Beginning Orchestration" book. 

Originally Posted by: HSM1

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Actually, I do use other libraries such as Berlin Strings, Spitfire Audio Chamber Strings/Symphonic Strings and only reason I ever used anyone else was too much better legato script, short note attacks and huge detail sampled short/long articulations, etc. You didn't just take user feedback seriously.

Have you made decision yet on any usefull articulations as bellow ?

Legato Slurred, Expressive
Legato Agile
Legato Fingered
Ostinato Arpeggio Legato slow/fast

Spiccatissimo
Spiccato
Spiccato Exposed
Staccato
Staccato Bold
Martele FFF
Portato Short
Portato Long
Repetitions slow/fast
Blurred Spiccato
Blurred Staccato
Blurred Portato

Flageolet Sustain
Sustain Soft
Sustain Immediate
Sustain Accented
Sustain Expressive Dyn (Short expr.)
Sustain Expressive Dyn (Long expr.)

Sul Ponticello Leg
Sul Ponticello Tremolo
Sul Ponticello Tremolo Accented
Sul Ponticello Staccato
Sul Ponticello Sustain
Sul Tasto Legato
Sul Tasto Portato Short
Sul Tasto Portato Long
Sul Tasto Sustain Immediate
Sul Tasto Sustain Soft
Sul Tasto Tremolo

Just wait for Synchron-Strings II to have most of the Articulations covered. Synchron-Strings I is of course the basic set.

However it even seems to me that each of the Articulations in Synchron-Strings I has much more "under the hood" that the simple "list" of single artticulations is no longer the right reference to compare.

I must admit, this seems to be an odd way to release a new library that everyone is excited to hear and learn more about. All we have is a little teaser trailer and a basic outline. I wonder if the marketing department are on holiday.

I was rather hoping we might know a little more by now. 

What worries me is the they mght suddenly turn round and say the library is released tomorrow, so you have until then to pre order it, whilst we have little or no more detail on it.

Of course it may well be that the library is being released later on November and whole raft of info ready to be  - but I do hope we will have a reasonable amount of time and a reasonable amount of information upon which to make a decision.

In general I think of most other strings libraries as "reasonable samples enhanced by great rooms", while I think of VSL as "great samples played in any room I like" (with MIR). It all depends in my view if you always want your strings to sound the same (I don't), or if you're prepared to buy numerous libaries from numerous companies, each for a unique purpose (I'm not).

Edit: Another thing to consider is quality, It seems that many strings libraries are released as buggy, incomplete products and they use paying customers to beta test them (they spin it as getting customers involved).

I did not try these libraries but some others. There is a lot of good strings libraries but I have come to the conclusion that the best one is the one that you know the best. I think the major part of a good mockup is in the midi programming and performance.

Some really nice sounding libraries sometimes lack in the number of articulations. Or sometimes the legato patch are too slow or too fast for some passage. I found that VSL almost always have the good patch for every musical phrase, specially the Dimensions. Adding some Dim Strings to others libraries gives life and realism.

Spitfire in general are really nicelly recorded, but I never used it, exept for the solo strings that I bought (nice but limited). But this is a small library.

I know there's a new one, Berlin strings. Have check the demos, again, good but how is it to work with? If I could have a try on every libraries I could have a real opinion.