Is it possible that you're using Remote Desktop Connection to access that machine? Unfortunately MIR Pro has a known incompatility that causes exactly this crash. It is recommended to use VNC instead. See https://www.tightvnc.com for instance.

Hi Tim,

I've sent you a private message.

Thanks :)

Originally Posted by: DANIELE-ES

I'm not having such issues with the initial release.

To clarify, with initial release you mean a previous VE Pro 7 release, or VE Pro 6?

Thanks.

The buffer size reported in the VE Pro Server is the maximum buffer size set by the host. In practice, modern hosts can set a higher buffer size, but actually process in smaller sizes when real-time response is desired. So you indeed shouldn't feel a difference in terms of latency.

If you're using MIR Pro inside VE Pro, this can also be accomplished by sending the Wet Send output of a Vienna MIR Pro plugin to a separate VE Pro bus channel. Then a Vienna MIR Pro Equalizer (or any other equalizer, such as the Vienna Suite Pro Equalizer) can be applied to the bus. Unfortunately this is not technically possible when using the regular MIR Pro plugin inside another host.

I've confirmed this issue. It only happens in certain circumstances, so that's why it must've slipped by our testers. A new update with a fix will be released as soon as possible.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

If Symphonic Choirs tries to save phrases in the protected Program Files folder, it is broken by today's standards. Are you sure it's not somehow possible to save these phrases in a proper unprotected folder?

Originally Posted by: JTC

hello 

I have a trouble with loading few vst plugins with VEP6 and the only way to make it start is take them out of vst folder. But for me that's not solving a problem becouse I have other apps in which I use these plugins (ingram plugins, lexicon plate) there they work there without a problem.

Is there any chance to implements an option to disable vst scan or uncheck plugins from being scan?

Thank you in advance!

When a plugin fails the scan, it will be automatically disabled by VE Pro and won't be scanned again. Is this not the behavior you're seeing?

It could be that one of your third party plugins inside VE Pro stops processing during a save or so. VE Pro 6 has auto-save functionality, which can be disabled in its preferences. Also, unless you have Decouple enabled for your connected instances, you may also see the host's auto-save causing havoc (this was actually the reason Decouple was added as a feature in VE Pro).

Noted. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

That is unfortunate. Could you send a project file to so we can try to reproduce and subsequently fix this issue? Please mention my name and a link to this forum post for quickest results. Thanks.

I confirmed and fixed a regression that caused these lags in VE Pro 6 for the next update. Thanks for the detailed reports!

Originally Posted by: Simon Ravn

I only have around 16 local instances. 2 second lag. And really, why should we settle for an acceptable lag when this lag was not present with VEP5? I don't see anything that warrants a playback dealy. It's annoying as hell. And I have confidence in that the VSL team will fix it :)

That is indeed unacceptable. Could you send your Server Project to with my name and this forum post mentioned? Thanks.

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic

Ok, so in VE Pro 6 on my slave PC I started creating empty instances in blocks of ten, then creating instances of the VE Pro 6 plug-in in Logic and connecting them. Starting app. around 35 is where I start to notice the latency. At 43, it is just a little less than with my populated instances.

I reproduced this both locally and connected to a PC with 44 empty connected instances. Locally, there is about half a second of lag before the transport starts playing, which I'd say is acceptable considering the rather large amount of connected instances. Connected to a PC, there is indeed about 1.5-2 seconds of lag, which has to be due to the extra network round-trip per instance.

The strange thing is that this part of VE Pro 6 has not changed. If anything it should be faster than before. Are you absolutely certain this lag didn't exist in VE Pro 5?

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic

Further, if i do not open VE Pro 6 on the PC, the  problem goes away. If I do not open VE Pro on the Mac, it does not. So clearly it is the PC with 43 projexts each with i insance of Play that is the issue. What is odd is that the first time I hit play in Logic, it instantly startsm but after that the lag is back, if that helps.

Now it  may be easy to blame Play or blame Logic, but it did not happen with Play in VE Pro 5 cinnected to Logic  Pro.

Could you perhaps try to remove third party plugins from your 43 PC instances (annoying, I know) to see if the lag still occurs? Thanks!

Hi Mark,

With one or more VE Pro Audio/Event Input connected, one additional buffer of latency will be added to the VE Pro plugin's processing. So what you're seeing is a combination of Altiverb's 1024 samples of latency and one additional buffer of 256 samples. 1024 + 256 = 1280.

Hi Greg,

May I ask how many buffers of latency the VE Pro plug-in is set to and what the buffer size of your audio card is set to?

There is actually no point in using the VE Pro Surround plugin in Pro Tools. It is only useful in hosts that do not allow you to choose the channel configuration of an instrument plugin.

Actually this is possible.

If you're referring to the Balance slider on a channel, simply right-click the source channel and select Copy -> Balance, and then right-click the destination channel and select Paste Balance.

If you're referring to the Stereo Pan plugin there are a couple of ways. One is to Alt-drag the 'Stereo Pan' strip to another channel and then removing the old plugin. Another is to right-click the source channel and select Copy -> Post Effects, and then right-click the destination channel and select Paste Post Effects. Similar methods of working can be applied to any effect plugin or set of plugins on a channel (see Copy -> Effects as well).

Note that in the case of the right-click and Paste option, it is possible to hold Alt while doing this and things will be copied to all selected channels.

I assume that you mean the VE Pro Event Input plugin. This plugin does not exist in a MAS version, simply because MAS supports multiple MIDI input ports out of the box, making that plugin redundant.

VE Pro will not perform well with an odd amount of latency buffers set on the plugin in Pro Tools. Try setting it to 2 buffers and the numbers should be better for you.

The latency displayed in the bottom right of a VE Pro instance window shows the latency inside the instance only. So if Plugin Latency Compensation is enabled in VE Pro and there are latency incurring plugins in the instance, the value will be greater than zero.

Could you perhaps e-mail the .mframe file to ? Just mention the URL for this forum thread and my name in the e-mail, so it gets forwarded to me.