SSE being Synchronized Special Edition

I'm trying to reduce the standard patches to four instruments (well, 4/4/3/3/1, but let's stick to the violins for the moment) for a project. So far I deleted desks 3&4, players 5-8, and those players from group 1&2.

What I now want to do is add to the Players list "Player 2/3/4" on keyswitches F#/ G/ G#. I can't see how to associate the matrix with the player. Can anyone help?

Really great to see these arrive, thanks!

One immediate thought is that I was a bit surprised to see, in Dorico's video, a great long list of individual VSTs for each instrument, because I'm accustomed to using Ensemble Pro. Of course there is no problem with assigning the new maps to the appropriate instrument, but would I be right in thinking that it isn't practical to auto-load ensemble instances?

I'm just working through the VST list with a current project. I've noticed a few things so far:

Flute 2+ loads with CC11 set significantly lower than 127. (Incidentally, currently my own maps use both cc2 and cc11 instead of velocity+cc.)

Instrument Eb clarinet loads a Bb clarinet patch.

Horn 1+2 loads the Vienna horn, 3+4 loads the triple horn. I wonder if it should go 1+3, 2+4?

Trumpets load C, Bb, C; I'd prefer C, C, Bb

Strings: some odd things here, thanks to Dimension Strings. This score has solo violin/viola/cello, but no divisi (so far). What's loaded is Dimension violin 1 player 1 for the solo -- I would have expected Solo Strings violin 1+ -- and then both section violins load with group 1 enabled, rather than the full ensemble. No solo double bass, but it loaded with only player 1 enabled.

Quick question: how does the harpsichord compare to the one that is part of Special Edition vol. 2? Is it based on the same instrument?

Originally Posted by: lunar_28664

Actually Andi, the comment that the Cubase VSL Strings is not 100% compatible with Dorico seems rather flattering . 

I'm inclined to agree. Having worked out over the summer how to implement keyswitches in Finale, I had a bit of a head start working on the Dorico maps. First I looked at an import from the Cubase set, and found things like multiple instances of (say) legato referencing separate keyswitches. Rather than try to figure out why (also, there were combinations of terms that you can't* create or edit in Dorico) I set about making a set of my own.

Once you realize that, for Synchronized Special Edition, most sets are largely the same -- flute, oboe, clarinet, for instance -- it cuts down the time it takes. 

*Shouldn't say 'can't'. Should say 'I haven't found a way to'.

As I understand it, Leigh is correct in saying that a set of xp maps is in the works. I waited for a version of Dorico that had decent playback, and so far I'm finding that v.3 works better than Finale in that regard, especially in terms of flexibility when using a mixture of libraries, and, as far as VSL is concerned, in implementing velocity crossfade.

Sure I'm hoarse from yelling in frustration about various things right now -- slow response being the main thing -- but overall I'm happy to have switched.

Thanks Andi.

I'm using VSL SSE, Finale 25 and Dorico 3. 

As a general question, first: I don't understand the relationship between Expression (cc11) and Velocity cross-fade (cc2 by default), if someone could patiently explain that to me.

Specific question, though, is how to set it up in Dorico 3. I can choose between note velocity & cc, and also enable a secondary choice, also velocity/cc. Do I want to make one cc11 and the other cc2, or should I stick with velocity in one and cc in the other, in which case, do I want cc 2 or cc 11?  There doesn't seem to be a way to have all three simultaneously.

How do you make that work, Ben? For instance, I can drag and drop patches from the appropriate folder, but not instruments. I can't open two Synchron Player instances in Cubase, and drag & drop between them.

I am *sigh* reading the ******* manual just now. Maybe I'll post a resumé once I've worked out the steps.

Hello

I upgraded from VSL SE to the Synchron edition. I use it with Finale 25. 

With the old SE, I set up matrixs/matrices for standard and muted, where instruments have separate sets, and use keyswitches (C0/C#0) to switch between them, assigned to a text expression. It's an easy drag+drop.

With the Synchron player, I discovered how to create patch matrices from scratch, but I wonder if there's a shorter way of doing it than recreating every entry one-by-one from the preset list, and again one-by-one for the muted variant?

I notice that I can copy slots at the lowest level and paste them into the new matrix copies all the sub-slots, but Mix presets do not appear to be accessible. 

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

I absolutely DO NOT like it as default behavior, so not "everyone" likes it.  Please provide an option to not do that.

Me too. I do not like this behaviour. If you want to draw my attention to cool things I might want to use, put it in the manual.

Cool

Originally Posted by: andi

We are waiting for a few updates in the Dorico Expression Maps system.

Glad to hear they're working on it.

Originally Posted by: andi

A new dedicated set of Human Playback Preferences for the SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions will be made though. 

I imagine this is a big job. Can you give any indication for when we should look out for it? Also can you say something about Dorico?

[replying to a Q about the Steinway piano]

It doesn't seem to have a working soft pedal. Don't know what other nerfs might be available, other than reduced mic position variety.

I just logged on ready to make the purchase, then I looked at this thread, and realized how little information there is about VE Pro 7.

Two simple questions:

One - when will the product be released. I don't mean what date, just are we waiting a month? Three months? Six?

Two - is VE Pro 7 Synchron-exclusive, or does it work with previous-generation packages such as VE Special Edition?