The program is not listed as not convertible in the iLok intro article. But on the My Product page it says I cannot upgrade to iLok. Probably makes sense as all its content cannot get updated either.

Not all of its features have been ported to the Synchron Player. Will the latter get an update or a Pro version?

There could even be different kinds of stomps:

A) musicians sitting (for orchestral situations)

• single stomp, one and two feet
• consecutive stomps (measured and unmeasured)
• stomp "roll"

B) crowd (for crazy sound design)

same as above plus (single stomp with two feet = jump)

• walking on the spot (measured and unmeasured)
• walking from left to right and vice versa (looped)
• walking from back to front

Masi

Soundiron have create a library of orchestral noises like tuning, warm-ups etc:

https://soundiron.com/collections/best-sellers/products/cacophony

With all the spot-mics of Synchron stage I guess VSL can do more than a copy.

Masi

Guided tours to the real Synchron Stage would be awesome.

Masi

More string articulations:

• pizzicato (with soft brass)
• snap pizzicato
• sul ponticello
• con sordino
• (atificial) harmonics (with soft brass)

Or sustained notes with brass and woodwind playing "flutter tongue".

Masi

I liked the idea of splitting the orchestra into high and low of Capricorn. In the spirit of it how about two-note "chords" with short and long notes, perhaps with some of the articulations of Andromeda:

• minor and major thirds
• fourths
• fifths
• sixths

Then you can builld chords putting the lower and higher registers together. Of course the orchestra could also be split up into three non-overlapping regions.

Or simply additions to the chord hits of Black Eye:

• half-diminished
• sus4 and sus4 - think pop music
• open fourth - think metal - ;)
• 1st and 2nd inversion of major and minor chords (and others?)

Ok, the ideas are not really thrilling

Masi

Very impressive.

I wanted to spell "washed out". My intention was to descibe the effect that using the tubular bells IR on the snare samples had.

The result is rather unusable. The Bösendorfer IR us much better. Given your explanation I expect the EQing to be less drastic and as a result a viable option for putting arbitrary instruments to the left (or right if you swap the stereo channels).

Masi

Hi!

I fooled around with using different IRs with the same instrument *. Besides the differences in positioning left and right I also noticed further changes in quality. Different frequency spectra are more or less prominent. Also IRs in extrem positions like tubular bells wash out the sound.

Is this only the room acoustics or have the IRs been differently recorded or processed? I'm not sure if I hrea or imagine diffferences according to the pitch range of the corresponding instruments.

Masi

I tried to position two snare drums to opposite sides by simple selecting different sides.

It's not in the interest of VSL to release it. Perhaps if they have SYNCHRONized every single one of their old libraries.

I've lowered my expectations to get the MIRX for Synchron Stage only in the VI PRO player.

Masi

Thank you. I've looked for the Caprocorn score before and couldn't find it.

If anyone wants the score for Andromeda, Black Eye and Caprocorn they are to be found in the Tutorials/Templates section.

Masi

Hi!

Is there any list of which instruments are recorded for the BBO?

For Capricorn we do have the score, but I wonder if there are any additional (or missing) instruments in the other packages.

Masi

VI PRO has many features that the new Synchron Player has not. Therefore you have good reasons to use the old version of the libraries.

But as it is know an either or when it comes to VI PRO features or Synchron Stage MIR.

Please create a special version of MIRx Synchron Stage for the benefit of VI PRO owner. Perhaps with the extra condition that you must own at least one SYNCHRONized library.

This will make many customers happy and it is only fair. If you have paid for the the old libs, VI PRO and a SYNCHRON upgrade I think one should be entitked to a MIRx version of the Synchron Stage.

Masi

If you own VI PRO you also cannot switch easily to Snchron Player as you loose everything you paid for.

So at least a special version of MIRx Synchron Stage only for VI PRO would be fair.

Masi

Each instruments has a default position, but you can assig a different impulse response for another position if you like.

Masi

Sections like strings, brass and woodwind definetely make sense. You could then easily mix staccato with sustains etc.

Maybe sections by "sound design" make also sense. Eg high strings with woodwind or high strings with double reeds, etc.

Masi

The SYNC'ed SE is for me a worthy product because you don't get only the MIR reverb but also loudness matched samples. You don't have to fuss around any more to get a reasonable realistic sound. IMHO you get the room sound, balanced samples and a more convenient UI.

The new plucked instruments the issue of sound balancing is less important. If you don't care for the UI you get the room sound for 20,- (if you already own the lib). Here I agree, paying for a MIRx extensions makes more sense than buying a SYNC'ed version of everything.

That said I like the Synchron Player. So now that I have SYNC'ed version I want to use MIRx extensions for them. After all they were recorded dry anyway, Yes, I could use MIR PRO. But that's way to expensive for private use.

So, yes for a MIRx Synchron Stage extension and yes to bring MIRx to the Synchron Player.

Masi

PS: Anyway, I don't beleive you see a MIRx Synchron Stage unless all old libs have been released SYNC'ed.

Ah!

Well done, you have convinced me.

Masi

Sounds great! I really love the better usability of the Synchron Player compared to the VI Player.

Do we get a Synchron Stage convolution reverb like we have it for the SYNC'ed SE?

I am thinking of a placement of the soloist (mostly acoustic guitar and upright bass) in front of the orchestra.

Masi

VSL, please continue this trend. Thanx for the Capricorn scores!

Masi

For the old VI Player you had to buy the PRO version to get tempo syncing. Which is (probably as in all other products realized) by stretching the samples.

If we're very lucky we're get it in a free update for the Synchron player.

In the meantime render the phrase as audio and do the stretching in the DAW.



You mean you want the MIDI notes of the played phrases exported to the DAW?

Ok, nice. Are you aware that doubling for this means adding the same instruments again to the mix. You cannot exclude any instrument from BB.







Before Capricorn came out IMHI it didn't make any sense. After all it was only about sustains or hits.

Now it is in the spirit to add percussion phrases to accompany Capricorn. I can also imaginge swelling drum rolls leading to pitched hits or echoing drum hits. Maybe even unrhytmic percussion would do well with the microtuning FX patches.

Masi

Masi

To me this question is related to that one:

BIG BANG ORCHESTRAL - Scoring chart

Masi

You mean you want to know which instruments are heard if you play eg C4? That's what I'd like to know.

Other than that I am curios if each instruments simply plays the lowest physical possible note or the lowest note of the "useful range".

But of course it is interesting to know how it really was scored.

Masi

You are right. They are not in the manual.

The manual also says nothing about polyphonic playing. Do we only get two orchestras playing at the same tone or is there some magic that splits the orchestra.

Masi

Maybe there are plans to create a PRO version of the synchron player. The old free VI player also had no options to sync tempos, but the PRO version had.

Masi

When you click on the top row buttons (instruments, articulation, etc) a menu opens. There you can assign any key range you like. The key you choose will be to bottom key for the column you are editing. The options are note (black and white keys) or white note (only white keys).

But moving the keys switches up will make you loose to bottom notes for the orchestra. I suggest you revert to MIDI programs or dimensions controllers configured to CC numbers.

Masi