I've just spent the last week trying to track down an issue I've been having when playing live in Synchron (VEP6 and VST3 single instance) in Cubase 10 on macOS 10.14.3. I was getting lots of red CPU overload warnings in Synchron and most notes being cut short or not sounding at all. Weirdly, this only happened with I played live, but not if I played back a pre-recorded MIDI track. It happened with all of the Synchron libraries including the pianos.

 

Initially I thought the problem was with my SSD. After buying new cables, and even using a Faraday bag and tinfoil, I found out the culprit was the high buffer setting in Cubase. I had it set to 2048; when I reduced it to 1024 the problem vanished. I'm glad I solved it because I was about to buy a new SSD I was that fed up and desperate.

 

I'm just posting this here in case any one else has this issue. I have no idea why this caused Synchron to throw a wobbly, but it seems it does not like the high buffer setting.

Cheers!

Hello,

Although I appreciate all the work that’s gone into upgrading Epic Orchestra, is there an option to not install it with VEP7? I own most of your libraries so don’t really need EO2 and would rather save space on my SSD.

Thank you.

Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I just need to take another look at the interface structure a bit more!

Hello,

I've just loaded up a few of the Cubase Expression Maps I downloaded from your website, and there seems to be an error with one of them:

The "VSL SY-DB-I - Trumpets.expressionmap" (SYNCHRON-ized Dimension Brass) had keyswitches intended to switch between the trumpet players, but had them on F3 to B3 (this is using Cubase's annoying C3=Middle C naming scheme - at least VSL got it right with C4!). This is within the trumpet's range and therefore deactivates any sample triggering in this section! According to the Synchron Player for the SYNCHRON-ized Trumpets it should be F5 to B5 (Cubase spelling, or F6 to B6 'Rest of World' spelling).

I have edited and saved a corrected version. How do I go about getting it to the right person to upload and replace the one you have on you servers (assuming I am correct)?

Cheers,

Darren

When I select the Trem marcato in any of the string sections, I can select Normal Attack, followed by "Long - vibrato" or "Tremolo" under Trem-Control and I can x-fade between them using the Dim. Ctrl/E slider. However, when I select Marcato Attack, the Trem-Control column is not visable, even though the slider still allows me to x-fade between the "Long - vibrato" or "Tremolo" sound. That seems odd to me. Surely the Trem-Attack column should be visable in both Attack versions, especially if you can still use the slider to x-fade between the trem and long-vibrato sound in both Normal and Marcato versions?

Is this as intended?

I have only just started using MIR Pro, and have also only just discovered MIRx and what it can do. I was excited to read that it would do automatically exactly what I have been struggling to do for the past few days. So I excitedly rushed to enable MIRx for my Vienna Instruments so they would fit and match with my Synchron libraries. I was left scratching my head as I could not find the Synchron Stage MIRx preset. I wondered if I not installed the presets correctly, so went looking for it in my downloads section. Nothing.

I'm disappointed to find out this is not available yet. But am glad to hear it is, at least, on your "to do" list.

I'd like to add my voice to those asking for this to be available sooner, rather than later.

Thank you.

 

I would like to know this too. Did you ever get an answer?

Hello,

I've created an A3 sized wall reference chart for the common instruments of the orchestra.

It includes written and sounding ranges; dynamic ranges; timbral characteristics; additional comments outlining the strengths and weaknesses of each group.

Instrument Reference Chart v6.1 (zipped file via Dropbox)

Both PDF and Sibelius formats are included. The included font is not required, but the chart will not look as intended without it. Of course, you are free to change anything to suit your own needs.

I would recommend that you get it laminated for longevity. Use good quality paper, possibly glossy, which will aid clarity.

The exact ranges of the instruments are always a bone of contention, as no 2 books agree completely. But all the ranges I have settled on represent the extremes of each instrument, which are obtainable with professional players. In some cases, the ranges can be extended beyond that shown, with a good player.

Most, if not all, instrumentation books always list the written ranges first. I have listed the sounding ranges (other than the octave transposing instruments) first, because I always write my scores at concert pitch. Therefore, I find it much easier to look down the list and see the actual sounding range whenever I'm writing a part. I'm sorry if this bothers you, but that's my preference.

Finally, not everyone may agree with all the remarks made in the 'Additional Comments' column. These comments have been collated from the bibliography cited on page 2, and they are the views of the respective authors. I have printed them here as a guide only; if you have a good reason to disregard these comments then by all means do so.

All the best,
Darren

[I could not edit my original thread from 2005 so created a new one. Original thread here: https://www.vsl.co.at/co...eference-Chart-version-4 ]

Hello,

I have only just seen this, sorry. I've uploaded it to my Dropbox account:

Instrument Reference Chart v6.1

 

Kind regards,

Darren

Hello,

I get an almost immediate crash on VEP 6 when trying to load the Pulsar Modular P900 AU plugin (demo version):

http://www.pulsarmodular.com/products/

This is on a fresh VEP 6 with absloutely nothing else loaded, and not connected to any DAW. Also, no DAW or audio app running. I noticed someone had a similar issue with VEP 5 last year:

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t41284-VEP-5-crashes-at-load-of-the-pulsar-modular-P900-Plugin#post247481

I have tried loading the plugin in VEP 5 and I am able to play and hear the plugin without any issues, but the GUI is invisible.

I am able to load the plugin in Logic Pro X without a problem.

Any ideas about how to solve this?

Many thanks,

Darren.

Specs:

macOS 10.12.6

Mac Mini Server 2011

2Ghz Intel Quad Core i7

16GB RAM

VEP Server (64-Bit) 6.0.16502

“Rage”? Really? Something’s definitely not right with your perspective if a product delay causes rage. Annoyance perhaps, but rage?

Sorry, but your post reads as either extreme over-reaction or sarcasm.

Hello,

I would like to echo what others have said. I am interested in this library, but am not prepared to pre-order unless I can hear some audio demos of the Synchron Strings alone - with no other instruments masking them. Only then will I be able to hear whether this is superior to what I already have (VSL and others).

I do hope the demos will appear before the Early Bird offer expires.

 

Thank you,

Darren

I hope I don't speak too soon, but I think I may have solved it.

 

Something weird happened in Cubase. I disconnected the VEP instance in Cubase, created a new VEP instance and selected the new MIDI outputs of that new instance.

 

Now it seems to be working OK...fingers crossed.

 

I still don't understand what happened though.

Hello,

 

I recently applied your latest version 5 update and now I can no longer hear anything coming from VE Pro.

I'm running Cubase 8.5 on Mac OS X El Capitan 10.11.6.

It says it's connected, but there is no sound. I'm also not sure any MIDI is getting through.

I tried to load a AU instrument with a virtual keyboard (Korg M1) so I could test it. When I play the keys on the Korg M1 virtual keyboard the interface lights up on the M1 (AU) to show that it's responding, but I can't hear anything.

I also tried to load a new empty Cubase project and load one VIP instrument in VEP. If I do that then it works ok and I can the intrument play when I feed MIDI into VEP. But my existing Cubase project is one that I've been working on for many years and to suddenly not be able to hear what I've programmed is very worrying. I don't understand what's going on. 

I have uninstalled and reinstalled all the latest VSL updates, but it still won't work. Please can you help me?

Thank you.

OK, thanks for letting me know Paul. I shall look forward to them.

This is a very nice demo. Thank you for that.

Hello,

Please could you point me in the direction of the audio demos for ONLY the Dimension Strings Cellos?

I have been searching the site and all I can find is the audio demos for the violins which were there before you announced the Dimension Cellos. I would like to be able to hear the cellos alone.

Thank you,

Darren

Thank you - version 5 does seem to work on XP...fingers crossed it behaves itself!

Hi,

I've just purchased VE Pro 5 and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to keep the VST plugins of version 4 side-by-side with version 5.

I need version 4 as well because I'm using the server version to connect to a Windows XP virtual machine (on Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3), and VE Pro 5 apparently is not compatible with Windows XP (although, I haven't tried).

Every time I install version 5, it replaces the VST plugins of version 4 - even if I copy them to my desktop. I even tried copying the version 4 plugs to a separate hard drive, and somehow it still replaced them with version 5 plugs (which is pretty freaky how it knew where I'd hid them!!!).

I'm starting to worry that it is not even possible - please help. If not I'll have to go back to using version 4, and would have wasted my money. :(

Hello,

I bought VE4 on 15th November - just 5 days ago.

Is there a free upgrade to VE5 for me? It seems awfully unfair to ask me to pay extra for it. I'm a music student and I'm already struggling financially.

Most companies have a grace period of maybe a month for new users. Even if it was only 1 week it would seem reasonable - especially considering the code for VE5 was clearly all but finished when I bought VE4.

Please say yes.

Kind regards,

Darren

Hello,

I only purchased VI Pro and VE Pro just 2 days ago. Will there be a grace period for recent customers to get a free upgrade?

Thank you,

Darren

What is the correct link please?

I would be interested to hear the comparison.

Hi Jay,

I very rarely post on this board. But I couldn't ignore what I just heard without leaving a comment.


Despite the huge leap forward that VSL provides, with all the MIDI
mock-ups I have heard so far I have always felt that the realism is
frustratingly lacking. They always get close, but not close enough to
make me forget what I'm hearing is just a bunch of samples (albeit
cleverly combined). If I hear a MIDI mock-up of a famous piece from the
classical repertoire that is substantially inferior to the real thing
then in my opinion, from a listener's perspective, the whole thing is
pointless. Obviously I'm always going to reach for my recording of
Beethoven performed by the LSO, or other respected orchestra, if it
moves me more than a sampled rendition. If it doesn't make me want to
listen again, then it has ultimately failed in its purpose. And I'm
talking about making music for the love of it, rather than when writing
for media where the practicalities of time and money severely limit the
pursuit of realism and listening pleasure, which play second fiddle to the needs of the project at hand.


Well I have to tell you that your performance - and I use that word
deservingly - has finally overcome those limitations. I can honestly
say that vast stretches of your rendition of The Rite of Spring were
frighteningly vivid and authentic. With a sampled orchestra there will
always be near misses, where you can hear that a transition, or a
repeated phrase, or the intensity of a note is not quite right. But these
problems have been hammered down into the tiniest of instances by a truly mighty baton of programming excellence.

I'm sure your efforts will inspire many VSL devotees to try and emulate such a magnificent achievement in their own work.

Pure genius!

-Darren

Oh no! I've now quit Cubase and the white window has remained behind. It won't go away! I can't see any way to dismiss it. When I click on it, there's no application attached to it. Help!

Hi,

I'm using Cubase 4 on a Mac Quad PPC. I just loaded 1 instance of VI and tried to load the Violins Appassionata level 2 patch. A white window appeared listing multiple samples that cannot be found...

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The window has no cancel or OK button so I can't get rid of it! I tried to unload the VI instance and reload it, but the window is still there. How do I sort this out?