I'm not sure about the power panner ... I thought that MIR Pro automatically reduces the width. But maybe there is a difference between stereo libraries and mono libraries (i.e. the Dimension series)? This is also a question I'm interested in: If MIR Pro reduces the width, what happens when I use a Power Panner first? Isn't the width reduced twice then?

Concering the reverb ... did you also disable the algorithmic reverb? I'm not sure about Dimension Brass, but the SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions also have algorithmic reverb. Check this in the AUX view.  

Originally Posted by: LAJ

Wow, children seem to be still a Topic. Let me add this ...

If the Viennese should not bring such a product until Black Friday I recommend Genesis from AudioBro --> total bestbuy and incredibly beautiful recorded (... duck and gone ...)

True, especially for the auto-divisi feature. But they don't have soloists... 

As I don't like the Synchron Player, no wishes for this. But there are a lot of great suggestions here, I repeat and chime in:

• Children Choir (Ensemble and Boy Solo)
• Dimension Woodwinds
• Dimension Strings IV Sul Ponticello
• Dimension Strings V FX
• Special Woodwinds like Pan Flute or Uillean Pipe etc.
• World Instruments

Originally Posted by: bbelius

Hi Pixelpoet,

I can't reproduce these issues with the latest version of the Synchron Player that was released yesterday.
Please update to this version and if it still crashes, send us the crash-dump. We will take a look at this.

Best, Ben

Hi Ben,

I can't see a new update, the latest version is from 10/08.

This is also one thing which annoys me with the Synchron Player. It crashes all the time, both in VE Pro and as a single instance in Logic Pro X. This is also true for the standalone version.

The crash happens only after some time using the Player and switching/loading instruments. I think this is the same behaviour @nicola74 describes. I always have the latest software updates.

For me, this is not a recent behaviour, these crashes have happened since the first versions of the Synchron Player.

Originally Posted by: PaoloT

The same samples, synchronized, are ready to use. Any beginner with a sense for the classical orchestra can start using and enjoying them. And they are compatible with the real Synchron libraries, in case they want to expand to them.

True, I agree. For new users this is outstanding.

The new woodwind library is great and is a less expensive alternative to OT Berlin series, comparing the articulations and the divisi conept with multiple instruments.

For me, the thing is that all the sample updates and benefits should also be avaiblable to the VI users. I don't want to be forced to use the Synchon Player.

Originally Posted by: LAJ

Why does no one see that they probably can’t bring the remastered Synchronized articulations back to VI?
From VSL´s point of view it is not possible. From Dietz‘ point of view, it would be a Desaster.

They did bring the updates of Dimension Strings to VI, for example. 

I think it can be done, because the re-editings are the same, raw samples. You can deactivate the reverb in the Synchron Player, then you have the same dry samples as in the VI player. 

I'm talking about things like non-vibrato legatos and the added velocity layers to the legatos. This can easily be transported to VI. For this you don't need the Synchron Player. But maybe I'm wrong... :)

I recently upgraded to the full cube, and I'm also sad, because I also want to see further development of VI Pro, there are so many features which can be added. Synchron Player is nearly the same approach with less features (e.g. time-streching). There are no real innovations.

They should invest in VI Pro, because this is the best sample player on the market. It only needs to be "transported into the future". Especially with innovative approaches, like e.g. a "performance legato" which can play any note length: legato, fast legato, short notes, repetitions etc, or a real auto-divisi instead of auto-voicing. I know that everyone has different expectations, but VSL has so many articulations in their VI libraries. They really are the only ones on the market who could actually achieve such an innovative, more playable, more real instrument. 

I already wrote a very long email to support about this some time ago, there is simply no manpower available. It's a pity, really... Especially when I read they worked one year (!) on the SYNCHRON-ized woodwinds. It's a good library, but the VI users are left behind. I would pay a small amount for these upgrades, but only to use them in VI Pro.

Originally Posted by: LAJ

Hi,
Where is a new Version? I see only 8th October ... ?

Yes, you're right, I mixed the date up (month <-> day). Sorry.

I have four questions:

1) How many velocity layers are there now?  What I'm missing in the new SYNCHRON-ized manuals (special editions, woodwinds) in general is the information on velocity layers, round robins etc.

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3) Is there a chance to have the re-edited samples for the VI libraries, too? In the future.

4) In the vi-control forum someone mentioned that the VI samples are normalized. Have you changed this? I think when playing e.g. the flute, it's louder in the higher registers.

Many thanks in advance!

I have another question:
Why do you have marcato longs, but not marcato legatos? The VI instruments do have these in the full libraries. Or, at least, a "fake" marcato attack as in the SYNCHRON-ized special editions.

By the way, I just purchased it and like it so far. The non-vibrato/vibrato options are great. But I need my “Interval Map” as a controller option.  

Originally Posted by: daviddln

I understand that. But why didn't you record woodwinds at the Synchron Stage like you did with Synchron Strings I

I think they already did. Maybe it's not that easy with wet samples. Just guessing...

The first time I watched the very first video of Synchron Percussion it was clear to me that all instruments had been recorded. At least, it sounded like that. And the seating graphic on the product page also showed the other instrument sections (and this graphic was the very first of the Synchron Series).

I don't understand it, either. Because it was said that there were no plans in SYNCHRON-izing the bigger collections.

BUT I really like the conistency: having nearly all legatos with a non vibrato and vibrato option is great. Also the overall re-editing sounds (I mean reads) good, because I don't like the Synchron Player.

The only thing – again – is that the Synchon Player doesn't have the “Interval map” option. Please, VSL, do it, and this library is going to be an instant buy!

Also, it would be great if the VI users could benefit from the re-edited samples, too. Like you did with Dimension Strings. I would pay for it!

Thanks, all questions answered!

Thanks, Dietz. 

I know about the aspects of Room EQ and Character EQ in MIR Pro, maybe it was a language thing. I try again.

At the moment, I look up the EQ settings of the SYNCHON-ized special editions in the Synchron Player and try to apply these for my instruments in MIR Pro with Vienna Suite EQ.

In the Synchron Player you have (only) one EQ, so is this comparable to the Character EQ or a combination of both Room EQ and Character EQ? I'm asking, because I don't know if there will be problems when combining the SYNCHRON-ized EQ settings with your Room EQ settings.

Hope it's clear what I mean. 

Many, many thanks, Dietz! I'm very happy with these. Made my day. ;)

Pity that there's no way to implement the individual EQ settings. Still hoping for an official MIRx release... I know I'm repeating myself, but, as a VI (and not SYNCHRON-ized) user I feel a bit neglected and disappointed.

But is there a way to export the settings into a text format or something? So that one could look them up and manually add an EQ plugin with these values?

But no problem, at this point one can look up the individual EQs of the SYNCHRON-ized special editions, that's they way I'm doing it, but most of the time I take the “pure” setting in MIR Pro.

But I'm wondering if the SYNCHRON-ized settings are to be compared to the character EQ (Pre-EQ) or the Room EQ? Or both?

Hi Dietz,

just a nice little reminder. Do you have something for me? :) But, no stress.

Sounds good. Looking forward to these.

No problem! Have a nice time.

Hi Dietz,

these settings are for the narrow view. Did you make presets for the wide view, too?

Which microphones should be used in the wide view? What's your recommendations? I think the Room EQs are the same for both narrow and wide view, right?

Thanks.

Wow, thanks! I will try it immediately. :)

I don't have any OT libraries, but I have the Teldex room pack.

I would like to know what the standard setting (50% dry/wet) is as it would be a microphone position in the OT libraries, or, actually in general. Maybe it's a question for Dietz...

Does it come close to a Decca Tree? Does anyone know? And on the other hand, when increasing the settings to 100% dry/wet, would this be some kind of an ambient microphone?

Example 1:
– Instrument 50%
– Global offset 50%
--> Decca Tree ?

Example 2:
– Instrument < 50%
– Global offset 50%
--> Decca Tree + Close ?

Example 3:
– Instrument 100%
– Global offset 50%
--> Decca Tree + Ambient/Surround ?

Example 4:
– Instrument 100%
– Global offset 100%
--> Ambient/Surround ?

Thanks, Dietz. This is awesome! :)

When does the offical MIRx extension come? It's such a long time... I don't understand. 

Which update are you talking about? I can't see a new one.

A very good idea, because the content is very good!

I tried making separete PDFs of the website, but it doesn't work with the tab menu, thus it's a very tedious thing to do. And of course, the audio demos are missing.

I would appreciate an offline HTML version (including the audio demos). This would be an easy task, I think. :)

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