Hi Paul and Andreas,

thanks for your effort Paul and Andreas. You were indeed right. It is only the volume and not the attack that gets louder. After further tests, I also noticed that. 

Hello Paul,

since the new version with the attack and velocity functions is available, you can adjust this quite well. However, I havenow noticed that this extreme attack effect is back when the pedal is depressed. This makes playing quietly extremely difficult. I do not mean the volume, but really only the attack, wich comes very hard when you press the button only slightly down. Can you possibly still make adjustments?

Hi David,

The difference in smooth attack you notice when you e.g. the C4 key, which has a particularly strong attack very slowly pressed down until a tone comes. For me, it starts to show an effect from about 28-30%. I think the tuning is so finely done that some don't hear anything until a certain point. Actually a good thing if you can fine tune it that way. Of course, it would be even better if you could set each key individually, because the keys have very large differences among each other. So you move the attack even for keys where you don't really need it.

Hello Kevin,

thank you for your settings. Why did you make it so difficult for yourself. You could have just saved the preset and uploaded it here. That would be easier for you and also for everyone else who wants to try it out. Maybe you can try it once

From the looks of it, you are very rarely here, too bad.

I wanted to try your settings, but it looks like you have the full version of the 280VC. In the normal version there is unfortunately kien Ribbon Mic.

Sorry if my English is not quite correct...:-) I always translate with Deepl..

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Ich habe diese Erfahrung auch. Aus diesem Grund war ich mit dem Bösendorfer Imperial BI frustriert und als ich den VC280 kaufte, fühlte es sich schlimmer an. Ich beschloss, mehr Zeit damit zu verbringen, mit den Einstellungen zu spielen, um dies herauszufinden. Mir ist aufgefallen, dass das Ambient-Preset nicht unter dem Problem zu leiden schien, aber es wurde auch viel berechneter Hall angewendet, sodass es nur für eine Teilmenge von Musik geeignet ist, die ich gerne spiele.

Bei ausgeschaltetem Reverb war das Ping immer noch kein Problem. Dies lieferte einen Hinweis.

Ich habe festgestellt, dass dies hilfreich ist, wenn Sie die Nahmikrofone mit anderen Mikrofontypen mischen. Wenn Sie den anderen Mikrofontypen auf der Mischseite eine gewisse Verzögerung hinzufügen, kann dieser Ping-Vorgang stummgeschaltet werden. Es fügt etwas natürlichen Hall hinzu. Ich denke jedoch, dass der Sound des Angriffs vom Nahmikrofon nicht mit dem Sound des Angriffs der anderen Mikrofontypen überlagert wird.

Sie müssen also ausgleichen, wie viel natürlichen Hallklang Sie mit der Verzögerung hinzufügen, um den Ping-Effekt nicht zu verringern.

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Hi,

Give us an example. Please send us a preset setting so that we can hear for ourselves how it works.

Thanks

Hi,

Give us an example. Please send us a preset setting so that we can hear for ourselves how it works.

Thanks

Hello Paul,

• what is the difference to the previous synchronous pianos?
• Is the sound even better?
• Does it have more settings, like overtones?
• Have things been implemented here that were criticized on the other pianos?
• What is the purchase argument for someone who already has all VSL Synchron Pianos and the Vienna imperial?

Georgy

[quote = fatis12_24918; 297637]I agree.

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Es mag eine kleine Gruppe geben, die das Bedürfnis nach einer stillen Schlüsselfunktion verspürt, aber ich bin sicher, dass nahezu 100% der Benutzer von einem Geschwindigkeitskurven-Editor und einer funktionierenden sympathischen Resonanz profitieren würden. Der Geschwindigkeitskurven-Editor ist der wichtigste.

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Natürlich, aber: Fast alle guten Piano-Keyboard-Controller verfügen über einen Geschwindigkeitskurven-Editor, während sie die sympathische Resonanz nicht verbessern können;) Dies liegt definitiv an VSL

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[quote = hazend_18867; 287923] dann bin ich jetzt der nächste Benutzer, der das nicht mag :-) Ich möchte diese Funktion auch haben

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Hallo, 

Entschuldigung für die Ablehnung, ich warte immer noch auf die Antwort unserer Entwicklungsteams. 

Wir müssen sich darum kümmern, ob dies so möglich ist, wie Sie es erwartet und wie viel Zeit es sich handelt. 

Im Moment ist es auf unserer persönlichen Liste gehört, und die Rechte sehen gering zu sein, bereits 5 Benutzer. 

Am besten,
Paul

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Hallo Paul,

Danke für deine Antwort! Ich habe die Rechte verloren und ich sehe auch, warum stirbt leider eine negative Rechte haben. Trotz der Anzahl der Rechte, der Funktion, die fehlten, der fehlenden, der VSL-Perfektion, die der Ethos-Verwaltung entspricht, und der Gesamtheit der Wiener Komponisten, der Laufzeit der Jahrhunderte zur Entwicklung des Klaviers haben war es geworden ist ...

Danke lieber. Ich werde sterben Hoffnung Hoffnung!

Alles Gute,

Roeland

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Hello, Paul,

I've discovered something else.

From f3 downwards a key always sounds double. Once when pressed and then when released.

Hello Paul,

1.is there a manual for this new interface with the key noise function?

2. could it be that the velocity seems so hard to me because the key noise control has no function and is therefore set to hard?

3. The same function is available for the ivory pianos. Among other things, it also makes the touch sound less hard.

I agree with angelus.  I don't hear sides swaying like the imperial, even though it's advertised

Hello, Paul,

1.I can't send you anything, because you can't hear it on the mobile phone recording

2. you can actually improve it with the condenser microphone

3. I put a screenshot on you. There is no effect when you turn the knob. I know the function of the ivory pianos, you can clearly hear the keystrokes.

4. yes i have a half pedal in my clp 585 yamaha. You can adjust the volume, but I don't understand why the default value for the presets is set to such a high volume (value is 0 and still so high). Presets are supposed to be there to have preconfigured values and not to have to change the value for the pedal every time.

Hello Paul,

I have bought it today.

1.

i think the new bösendorfer has much less bass than the imperial. From C3 on it sounds rather flat against the imperial.

2.

I also find the attack in player mode too strong. You notice that especially when you play the moonlight sonata. It sounds so hacked off.

3.

And with the key noise you can't hear any difference. You can turn the knob up or down and nothing happens.

Which would also interest me why the presets always have such a high pedal volume. That almost hurts my ears. No piano has such a loud pedal noise. It hisses like a steam lock.

greating Georgy

Hello Paul,

unfortunately I can't compare it. Are there differences in sound and sensitivity? Is it more realistic like the vienna imperial?, or do the other functions only help me when I want to produce and record music?

greatings Georgy

Hello Paul,

what is the big difference to vienna imperial? Is it worthwhile at all to switch from imperial to synchronized Bösendorfer?

greatings Georgy

but the bass is very uncomfortable in the ears. They are no longer clear and blur very much when you press the sustain pedal. I think. that's a bit too much. I'd turn the bass down a bit and take the room mix in with it.

Hello Paul,

I think I phrased my question wrong. That's because of my poor english...

What exactly does this function do?

Best

Georgy

Hello Paul,

thnak you  verry much..:-)

Best 

Georgy

Hello,

maybe someone can answer that question for me.

What happens if I install the stereo library for the CFX Yamaha, then the update 02 and sometime after a few months the stereo library again?

Do I have to install the update 02 again, or is it still available?

Thanks

Georgy

Hi,

What do you need this function for anyway?

Sorry when my English is not so perfect. I'm translate with deepl :-)

I agree, but I am very disappointed with the Bösendorfer Upright so far.

Hello Paul,

yes, I have the same problems. The noise is on A3 verry loud. It beginns on F# to Bb. I think this is not a part from the instrument and very disturbing. It destroys the whole piano sound. Sorry for my english, I'm not a native english speaker. Is there any statement from Vienna on the problem?

Best 

Georgy