As if anyone cares.

Event Viewer is littered with errors from the Bonjour Service.

"This installer is inteneded for 32-bit versions of Windows.  Please obtain the 64-bit installer....."

Excessive update rate for XX._vepro.tcp.local"

The latest VEPro 7  would exit abruptly and I think it did not like the Imperial Paino + MIRacle.

So I reverted back to the older VePro7, and instead of exiting it would freeze on Export at the same spot.  Immperial + MIRacle.    

Solution was to remove the MIRacle and don't download the latest VEPro7.

After the crash #5

Upon reloading everything, the first pop up message asks "Load last saved server project?"

I click the "Don't show this again" box.  And then click "No".

Everytime I reload after a crash, this pop up comes up.  It won't go away.

Got the latest to install and load.

But this version crashes more than the older.  3rd time today it decided to quit and exit.

Apparantly,  I am unable to install an earlier version.

VEPro is so smart, it won't let me.  "Cannot load plugin state saved by the newer version of VIPro"

WIth the latest and greatest  VE Pro7 ( March 5 2020)

I installled the VIPro of (May 14 )

Not working!!!!

"Toolkit: Unsupported plugin version.  Please ensure you are running the latest version of VEPro"

Software keeps on crashing.  Maybe go back to VEP6

It takes 5-10 minutes to bring it back up.

The only thing I get from VSL is "Solo Synchron for sale"

Another Crash happens when I move VEPro 7 from one monitor to another.

Moving VEPro 7 in a multiple monitor setup makes it take a dump.  I have three  32" monitors.

Windows 10.

I'm trying to do a merge of projects (VST3).  It doesn't matter which project I select first, in the end I get the .dmp

I've emailed  the .dmp to the support address.

OK,   I went back and tried again.  This time I used <SHIFT>

Nothing is mentioned in the VEPro 7 documentation pdf about this.  

In the Mixer of VEPro.  Highlight a bunch of rows.

In FX section hold <SHIFT> and select a bus.  All the highlighted rows get updated to the new bus.  GOOD

In the SEND section, hold <SHIFT> and select a bus.  EVERY row gets updated to new bus excpet Master and Bus.

This is a BUG.

In the OUT section, hold <SHIFT> and select a bus.  All the highlighted rows get updated to new bus.  GOOD.

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Summary: In the SEND section, updating multiple rows is broken.  It updates everything.  Very bad.

I hope you don't dismiss this.  It is a bug.  It would be nice if the VEPro 7 has clear documentaion on how to make your Workflow by these global commands.

VEPro 7, Windows.

How to reproduce.

1. Set the VIPro size to 200%

2. Now you are screwed.  Save doesn't work.

VE Pro 7, Windows.

Steps to Reproduce

1. Select a bunch of channels in the Mixer.  Click on a channel then press <SHIFT> and select another on the right of it and it will highlight the ones in between.

2. Go to the FX channel of your highlighted select and hold the <ALT> key and select a BUS.  FAIL: only 1 channel changes BUS.

3. Go the the SEND section of your highlighted select and hold the <ALT> key and select a BUS.    SUCCESS: all channels change.

Tutorial: Routing to and from MIR Pro / MIR Pro 24 using the VE Pro Mixer

Page 40.  Vienna_MIR_Pro_UserManual_v1.2_en.pdf.    

It is unclear what I am looking at.  From top to bottom, I see is a SENDS (+) with a Vienna MIR( in red )  and an "inline" with an orange level/lever below.

In my VEPro 7, the SENDS only have options of BUS and OUTPUT.  (And it is called SEND, not SENDS(+))

OKay then, lets try the box below the SEND.  I don't know what to call that box.  Not clear.  Do you have a name for that box?   Anyways, I am able to select MIR and inline which is good.  What is missing is the orange lever/level.  ????

Is it too hard to ask for a flow-chart/diagram on how the VEPro Mixer works?  Reading the manual isn't clear at all.  I had to re-read the comment on "inline" about a dozen times, and I think I may know what is going on.  But I'm not a 100% sure.

Now lets go to page 41`.   Again, image has under SENDS(+) a Vienna MIR, a (inline), and an orange level/lever.

Which makes absolutely no sense to the product I have.

Continue to page 42.  Post-MIR Audio Inserrts.  "Built upon the example given on the previous page, processing

may also be applied after MIR Pro."  Ok, I give up.  Utter pointless to continue.  At this point I have no idea what is going on.  Unable to duplicate p42.  Maybe this is a Mac thing.

What would be great is a flow-chart/diagram of VEPro 7 mixer.  Then I would not have to try to dicipher what is going on.  Images are great, when they are up to date.  A flow-chart would be even better.

In Vienna_MIR_Pro_UserManual_v1.2_en.pdf  on page 7.

#10 Venue View Control.   Where is #10 in the picture?

p47 on VEPro manual.  It reads.

To re-arrange a docked window (as shown below), simply click and drag its title bar over the main window.  Indicators will be displayed when you’re placing the window over a valid location on the main window.  The Instrument window offers the option to unsnap individual instruments.

Sounds like a great idea.  It would be better if there was a button to automatically rearrange the windows to what the picture shows on p.47.  On Windows 10 the rearrange, resizing windows with a mouse in VEPro7 is just awful.  If you are not on the exact pixel it won't work.

But the worst part of all of this.  After you resize the windows to have all four windows displayed (Mixer, Instruments, MIR, and Automation).  You are stuck with those exact windows on the screen no matter what program you are on.  Switching programs does not remove the windows.    This option is only good for those who only have one program loaded in VEPro 7.   Who does that?  Answer: no one.

I would love to have the option to display all four windows on the screen.  My 32" monitor has so much unused space.  This option would speed up my workflow immenesly.  

VE7  7.0.922

Windows 10

Add a new instance using the plus symbol. (+)

Open a project.  (Cntrl+O)

Select a project to open.

Title of project is Untitled even after loading a project.  And the color is all messed up.

How does Logic handle deletion of a track?

I was told, you can delete a track in Logic using just the DELETE key.  But, it pops up a confirmation box.

Tracks in Cubase and Logic are like channels in VEPro7.

What do other people think?

How does Cubase handle deletion of tracks?  

Selecting a track and pressing delete will NOT delete the track.  

You need to press SHIFT + DELETE to remove a track.

No idea how Logic works.

VE7 should follow same type of method.  Simple one key DELETE should not remove a channel.  If  the user wants to remove the channel they will have to use 2 keys to get it done through the keyboard.  (SPECIAL KEY + DELETE).

Make a checkbox in Preferences to turn off deleting channels on delete button press.

To delete a channel, use the gui at the bottom of the channel list.

Delete button should still work for other things.

You have to wonder why no one else comes across this.  Is it just me?  Or   It takes time and effort to post a 'how to duplicate' a problem.  Let alone a video.  I go back and forth between VSL and the expression map editor in Cubase like ping-pong.  It happens to me many times, enough to push me to make a video.

8 years huh? To be fair, I should have posted this a year ago or more.  So it really should only be 7.

I had a question to another plugin.  ilya efimove responded 

Thank you for being our customer and sorry for the delay in reply. It's
really great that you studied the manual so thoroughly, because you have
found mistypes nobody ever noticed since all these years the Duduk has
been released.

Okay, I made a Video so you can see what I did.

https://vimeo.com/367462506/3972aa6940

The delete button should not delete a channel. Especially when the focus was on the plugin within VE7.

Going back and forth between Cubase and VE7 happens all the time.  I could be in Cubase editing the piano roll, editing the Expression Maps, editing the CC7 and CC11.  Often times I need to delete notes.  But if I make a simple mistake of having the focus on VE7, the simple delete key will destroy a channel. 

Now that I think about it, I don't want a pop-up.  I don't want the channel to be deleted by just pressing one key.

To delete a channel, more effort needs to be required by the user.

Yes, a checkbox in the Preferences with the ability to pop-up message before delete will be nice.

But, I think this is a bug.  In Standalone, the delete button will work for SD3. When in VE7, the delete will not delete the groove selected in SD3 instead the channel gets deleted.

Thanks,

I see now.

What a waste of time.

I set up all these chanels, giving each one a special name and a color.

Then I enter the mixer and select "Vienna MIR Pro".  VSL then renames your channel and gives it a different color.

Thanks VSL for wasting so much of my time. 

Going back between Cubase and VE7, I believe I was editing the piano roll.  I press the delete, but the focus was not on Cubase but instead VE7.  So it deleted the channel. 

How do I get a pop-up warning In VE7 to come up when a channel is about to be deleted?

I ended up doing a control-Z to bring it back, but what a pain/time waste.

If you are enamored.  Go Synchron.

I owned Dimesnsion strings for some time now and

I have not grasped the 8 separate playes to Divisi to Groups to Desks to All to Regular strings to G strings to D strings to A strings to E strings to Open strings.

Never understood how to use all those options to my advantage.

VI->  doesn't have Violin 1 and  Violin 2.  Just Violins.

Synchron looks to have the 2nd Violins.

To my ears, Dimension strings were never great at soloing.  There are better libraries for that.

VI: sequence mapping is another thing that is unclear how to use.  Instructions were...meh.  Hence why so few people use it.

If you go Synchron, then you shouldn't buy any of the VI.  Stick to one or the other.