Vienna Symphonic LibraryCompany Logo
  • Products
    Synchron
    • Synchron Series
    • Synchron Pianos
    • Big Bang Orchestra
    Starter
    • HELLO Free Instruments 🔥
    • Synchron Prime Edition
    • Special Editions
    • Smart Series
    Software
    • Vienna Ensemble Pro
    • Vienna MIR Pro 3D
    • Vienna Suite Pro
    • more...
    VI Series & More
    • VI Series
    • Freebies
    • Vienna Voucher
  • News
  • Music
  • Forum
  • Academy
    Instrumentology
    • Strings
    • Brass
    • Woodwinds
    • Percussion
    • more...
    Discover Strings
    • Violin
    • Cello
    • Double Bass
    • Harp
    • more...
    Discover Brass
    • Trumpet in C
    • Horn in F
    • Tenor Trombone
    • Bass Tuba
    • more...
    Discover Woodwinds
    • Concert Flute
    • Oboe
    • Clarinet in Bb
    • Bassoon
    • more...
  • Support
    Software Manuals
    • Vienna Assistant
    • Vienna Ensemble Pro 7
    • Synchron Player
    • Synchron Piano Player
    • more...
    Instrument Manuals
    • Big Bang Orchestra
    • Synchron Collection
    • Special Editions
    • Changelogs
    • more...
    Tutorials & FAQs
    • Installation iLok
    • iLok Video Overview
    • Sibelius Integration
    • FAQs
    • more...
    Company
    • About Us
    • Team
    • Press Area
    • Contact
    • Send a Message...
  • en|de
  • Toggle Light/DarkMyVSLMyProfile
    Login
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.
  • Forum
  • Active Threads
  • Search
  • Help
  • Login
  • Register

Notification

Icon
Error

OK


> FORUMS > Search
Search
Search for
Posted by
Forum
1.[FIXED] macOS Monterey and Logic: the AU VSL plugin interface is black 11/12/2021 2:30:18 PM

Originally Posted by: JoelW Go to Quoted Post

The AU plugin from v1536 (beta) crashes with segfault and doesn't load in Logic Pro X for me -- The Logic Pro X host running under rosetta2 or natively. MacOS 12.0.1 (M1; arm64).

That beta works fine for me in Studio One.

2.Questions about Synchronized Chamber Strings 7/17/2018 11:25:15 AM

Originally Posted by: fahl5 Go to Quoted Post
In my humble opinion (after having already produced nearly an hour of ambnitious classical music with SyStr.) there is no real evidence for any substancial lack of legato, while it of course it may be that some people who didn't worked yet that seriously with that library might be the victime of their missing expierience to get out of it what they are looking for.
Oh puh-lease, cut the crap with this nonsense. The legato is - at best - sorely disappointing. No other library I know has received such an amount of criticism over this at VI-Control. Shifting the blame to others ("victime of their missing expierience" [sic]) is sheer bigotry.

3.My First Recording with Synchon-Player-Strings: F.E.Fesca (1789-1826) Ouverture D-Major op.41 6/29/2018 10:02:51 AM
The original recording link does not work? Synchron does not convince here either, especially in those parts where the strings are exposed. It's synthy, very synthy.
4.Synchron Strings 1 New Audio Demos (Using New Synch. Player) ? 6/26/2018 9:09:34 AM
Originally Posted by: Pixelpoet1985 Go to Quoted Post
I really would like to know if onecan realise some "Hollywood" sounding music, with expressive legato lines which sound realistic. Or something like in the Blue Planet promo video.Because I can't and I don't thinkthat anyone else can. Harsh words, I know. I just want to be persuaded.
Harsh words, but true. I spent some hours yesterday with synchron, even though I planned on wiping it from ssd, trying to get it to do a John Williams piece I mocked up months ago. It's just not possible, the mix doesn't help and the legato works against you. Sigh.
5.Synchron Orchestral Strings in Synchron Player -- when? 6/8/2018 9:04:09 PM

Originally Posted by: fahl5 Go to Quoted Post

Sorry, but I fear you misunderstood Hans Zimmer Strings a bit. HZS provide You per section (not 9 different Mikrophonepositions) but as far as I understood it only the choice between 1 (Basses), 2 (Violas) up to 5 different recording positions of the Sections. Yes each seem to be recorded with a different amount of Microphones. But you do not have (as far as I know) for each microphoneposition seperate Samples as you have in Synchron Strings.

Hmm, no that is most certainly not true. I own both so I'm not misunderstanding HZS at all. These are the max amount of offered mics, the amount varies per section (and per patch), from the Spitfire page:

NUMBER OF MICS

  • 60 Violins - 21
  • 20 Violins Left - 13
  • 20 Violins Centre - 14
  • 20 Violins Right - 13
  • Violins Galleries - 15
  • 20 Violas Wide - 17
  • 20 Violas Centre - 15
  • 60 Cellos - 26
  • 20 Cellos Left - 15
  • 20 Cellos Centre - 14
  • 20 Cellos Right - 15
  • Cellos Galleries - 18
  • 24 Basses - 21

The mic positions are all actual recorded samples, you can turn the mic positions on and off individually (they vary from close, tree, ambient, outriggers, mid distance pairs, gallery mics, and more). Synchron works in the same way, recorded mic pairs which you can turn on and off.

The HZS 60 Cellos long patch really does have 26 mic positions available compared to 8 for Synchron. I'm not sure which five recording positions in HZS you would be refering to. HSZ is smaller in size (180+ gigs) for sure, not because of the mic positions but mainly because it is not as deeply sampled in terms of velocity layers.

The 'flexibilty' which Synchron offers using sliders to do a live mix with mic positions has been available for a while now in other Kontakt libraries as well, although usually less than 8 positions. It's not really anything new, the execution of the idea in Synchron is just fine (from what I've seen in the Piano Synchron player before it kept crashing) but I would hardly call it ground-breaking. It's rather a necessity to be competitive these days as all other library developers are doing similar things. 

6.Synchron Orchestral Strings in Synchron Player -- when? 6/8/2018 5:51:24 PM

Quantum-leap? It's a necessity foremost. Multiple mixable perspectives is not something new. If you're looking for a "quantum-leap" in that regard, Hans Zimmer Strings has way more acoustic perspectives than Synchron Strings.

7.Nuendo Crashing upon scanning Synchron Piano 5/29/2018 1:22:36 PM

Same problem here, but using Logic Pro X. The plugin will work a while when you put it into a project, but then suddenly for no good reason it will crash Logic. Logic will then refuse to load the project because it crashes everytime loading the Synchron plugin. 

The only way to get back into your project is to remove the dongle which prevents the Synchron plugin from loading, remove the offending track and add it back again. VERY annoying.

8.Synchron Orchestral Strings in Synchron Player -- when? 5/28/2018 1:50:05 PM

Originally Posted by: daviddln Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Sovereign Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: daviddln Go to Quoted Post
Well, that's not true. First, we didn't pay anything for the Synchron Player. And second, Synchron Strings I are complete and work perfectly within VI/VI Pro.
Sigh, where could you possibly have gotten this utterly silly idea? 

These are just facts.

Uhm, nope, Synchron Player is an essential part of Synchron Strings I. Delivery of the player was promised at introduction. Claims to the contrary are sheer lunacy.

9.Synchron Orchestral Strings in Synchron Player -- when? 5/28/2018 11:37:14 AM

Originally Posted by: daviddln Go to Quoted Post
Well, that's not true. First, we didn't pay anything for the Synchron Player. And second, Synchron Strings I are complete and work perfectly within VI/VI Pro.
Sigh, where could you possibly have gotten this utterly silly idea? 

10.Synchron Strings I 5/26/2018 8:43:52 AM

Originally Posted by: V_ad_im Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Sovereign Go to Quoted Post

I think that's a bit unfair to say about the players who performed, who no doubt are very capable musicians.

 Sure, there are no claims to the performers themselves, I meant to let the VSL recording and cut team to hear legato sound in a live performance-maybe they have not attended live concerts for a long time and have been listening to strings only from their midi keyboards for years and forget how it sounds in reality..)

LOL, perhaps. Or, all they might need to do is examine at a few competitor products to see how it is supposed to sound.

11.Synchron Strings I 5/26/2018 7:45:56 AM

Originally Posted by: V_ad_im Go to Quoted Post
Sy strings buyers, lets go to collect 5 euros each for the Synchron string band to play several examples live for the VSL team so they can finally hear the difference between 'keyboard' SY and live strings legato?)
I think that's a bit unfair to say about the players who performed, who no doubt are very capable musicians. I believe there are several issues at hand as to the cause of the quality of the legatos recorded. One flaw I think is not letting the players play more 'organic', rather than seeking technical perfection per note. 

I'm not sure how VSL implemented the transitions in Synchron, but their original idea way back when they 'invented' it is the best, record the legato transition and the whole target note which follows. That's not what they did here, they seem to have recorded transitions only (I'm even not sure how much legato layers are in the samples) and faded them into the sustains. Now, while that can work fine also, other competitors have done this far far better. Even the aging Hollywood Strings. They really need to sit down and examine where this went wrong, especially since it is supposed to be "revolutionary". Heck, their own, older products have better legato than this.

12.Where's the Player? 5/22/2018 11:26:01 AM

Originally Posted by: kohlhtor Go to Quoted Post

must i redounload with the new player you say

Thorsten,

You would indeed need to redownload the new sample content yes. But the new content is not yet available, as Paul wrote. 

13.Synchron FX Strings I released! 5/19/2018 8:14:43 PM

Do you mean the Synchron Strings I player, Paul, or something else?  

14.[SOLVED] Yamaha CFX and a lot of glitch sound ! 5/8/2018 12:36:58 PM

Originally Posted by: lumcas Go to Quoted Post

I've got the same problem - one big glitchfest. macOS 10.12.6 , 6-core trashcan, 64GB RAM. thunderbolt 2 drive albeit a spinning one, last eLicenser and iLok software. I have to remove Synchron Pianos vst otherwise Nuendo crashes while starting. In Pro Tools 2018.4 the AAX plugin works, but no matter what's the latency or preload buffer settings it just glitches as hell even with only one mic position. All my other libraries and plugs (some of them really performance heavy) work flawlessly. Not a happy customer here.

I have it working fine on a 12-core trashcan which has a lower clock frequency than your 6-core, and on a 8-core trashcan at 3,3 Ghz. In Logic using a buffer of 256, rarely - if any - glitches occur. I suggest moving the library to at least a SSD drive, best would be your internal drive.

15.Delete this troll-hijacked thread 12/31/2017 4:32:05 PM

Originally Posted by: William Go to Quoted Post
I have used all the string libraries since VSL came into existence in 2000 - actually before with Garritan, Siedlaczek and MIroslav - and THIS IS THE BEST.  Especially out of the box.
Wow, blast from the past. Do you live in a bubble William? If those are the best examples you can think of it looks like you skipped more than a decade worth of innovation. Plus it's really sad if you have to compare Synchron to those outdated libraries, "it is better than Miroslav" is certainly not doing Synchron a favor.

16.Delete this troll-hijacked thread 12/31/2017 3:27:24 PM

I own many of the big flagship string libraries, and I'll take exception to the claim that it's the "greatest" out there. It's not and in fact there are worrying aspects to a degree that I am even reconsidering keeping Synchron on my system, let alone invest in further Synchron products. When VSL announced Synchron I was al giddy, expecting this to be excellent and a revolutionary product compared to every competitor out there, specifically the legato. But right now after downloading all of it disappointment has set it. I can get way more musical results from competitor libraries with minimal effort when it comes to soaring string lines. And while I recognise that the legatos are currently incomplete, the ones which were released are not inspiring confidence. It seems realism has taken a back seat to playability, the legato transitions are extremely short and the destination notes lack necessary liveliness. I'd have expected VSL to take a close look at how competitors have delivered over the past years when it comes to wet string libraries and legato, for you'd want to improve on those rather than release a product which IMO seems to belong in the past. 

17.Synchron Player 12/1/2017 12:00:47 PM

Could not find an answer, but is there any integration with NI Komplete Kontrol?

18.Synchron Strings I 11/28/2017 7:42:04 AM
"first parts of Synchron Strings I", that phrase needs clarification.
19.Synchron Strings I 11/21/2017 3:03:33 PM

Originally Posted by: Dominique Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post
More information and also more demos should be available soon (I know that has been quite a stretch)

The demos are long in coming this time.

My guess is we'll see them next thursday. 

20.Synchron Strings I 11/10/2017 11:43:07 AM

I just pre-ordered the basic set. It's been a very very long time since I bought anything from you guys, I hope you can meet my expectations. ;-)

Loading...

Icon
Loading Search Results...

  • Forums
  • Search
  • Latest Posts
  • Terms of Service
  • Terms of License
  • Privacy Policy
© 2002 - 2023 Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH. All Rights Reserved.
This website uses cookies to enable you to place orders and to give you the best browsing experience possible.
By continuing to browse you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Full details can be found here.