Hi

I often have this situation: I want my V1 Elite Strings play a fast run up to a target note. For this I use the legato agile articulation and it works really well, but the first note has a very slow attack. I'm not sure why. Should I use another articulation for the first note?

Regards Stig

Hi Paul

It's from a Samsung SSD 850 EVI 1 TB, so no moving parts here.

Regards Stig

Hi

Today I thought I would give the paradigm: One instrument - one instance a try in Cubase. This approach will make the mixing process much easier I think. So I created 16 instances in VEPro7 on my Server 2 - a Mac Pro 5.1 12core with 48 gigs - each holding an instrument from the new Synchron Woodwinds library. Those 16 instances "lived" next to 3 instances: Percussion from Synchron Perc, the same woodwinds collection, with all 16 instruments in one instance and finally one instance with the Synchron Harp.

The moment I connected the 16 instances with woodwinds, the VEPro server stopped playing. All 12 cores on my old Mac server was completely overloaded. Even WITHOUT the seq running! Clearly this wasn't a good idea.

Now I tried the same set-up in Studio One - using VST3 - with precisely the same result. Even with the transport stopped, VEPro shows 1900% in CPU use! The memory is down with only 12 gigs. The 16 channels with the Synchron Woodwinds was around 75% even without playing! Changing the dropout protection from Low to High, made the VEPro server breathing again, and the project could be played okay, but now had 53ms latency on the 

Then I started Logic, and using AU and AU3, there was barely any activity on the CPU on the server!   Even with a buffer on 64 samples, the track was playing okay as long as I hadn't selected one of the VEPro tracks!

So with VST3 everything stopped even with the transport stopped and with AU3 in Logic Pro X the project worked!

Is there a deeper wisdom hidden in all this, that I miss?

Any help much appreciated!!

Regards Stig

Yes!
Everything is the last update.
Also see really long load times for the synchron harp. Instanciating the plug-in and the wait 2 minutes. Is that ok?

Hi

I will try that!. The problem is occurring on a Mac server so VEPro7 is the only app running.

Regards Stig 

Ok

Thanks!

Hi

I have an issue with some of the Synchron Woodwinds Expression maps. It seems that there are missing the entry for Long Notes C#0, in the Articulation lane, this is the case for the bassoon map. What I mean is this:

If you choose Staccato for some notes and then wants a regular long note with vibrato, there is no way of telling the Synchron Player, that you want to switch to that expression!
Or is there?
I can't find it!

Regards Stig

Hi

I keep getting this error:

Any solution?

Well it seems that it all depends on HOW Cubase/Nuendo is chasing CC's.
Go to preferences/MIDI/Chase Events and REMOVE check mark in:

"Chase not limited to Part Boundaries"

By removing the check mark (if any) Cubase will only chase events INSIDE the part!

This has solved the problem!

So: It seems that it's okay to automate channels on/off from the track as long as the automation CC (I have only tested this with CC's) is kept in a separate MIDI part and the "Chase not limited to Part Boundaries" is NOT checked.

Regards Stig

In VEPro it’s possible to automate enabling/disabling a channel in an instance. This is very important because I can load a huge template in VEPro in no time, and only activate the channels I need.

This can be done by using a CC, and I have selected CC 101. Sending a value of 0, turns the channel on, sending a value of 127 turns off the channel.
So the idea is, to create a MIDI block in the beginning of a track, and the first time the sequence is running, the CC 101 - 0, is send to VEPro and the channel will be activated.
Now it seems that every time I select a new articulation with the help of a VST expression, Cubase sends the CC 101 - 0, which causes VEPro to “hick-up”.
I have also tried CC 15, and it’s the same problem.
The same track runs fine, if I use old fashion key switches!
Now I just use a button on my Metagrid to turn on the channels I need, waiting for VSL to give us activation by MIDI! ;-)

That's fantastic!!

Thanks a lot!

Yes you were right.
I got confused where to find the VST plug-ins in the Windows set-up, now it's working!

Thanka!

Hi

Yesterday I updated my SINE player (Orchestral Tools) to latest version. Now I can't launch any of the SINE channels in my VEPro 7 server - on PC.
I'm a Mac guy, so I don't know how to "persuade" my PC/VEPro 7/SINE to behave.

Can anybody help me?

What happens is that I get a box saying: VST: SINE Player - Could not open plugin.

VEPro 7 version: 7.0.1120

Regards Stig

This situation is driving me nuts.

I have a PC server and a Mac Pro 5.1 with VEPro 7 installed. All instances on the Mac Pro are "advertised" correctly and it doesn't matter if I use the AU version of VEPro on my main machine (Mac Pro 6.1) in Logic or the VST version in Cubase.

But the situation is much different with my PC. 4 out of 5 times I can't "see" my instances on the PC server if I connect from Cubase, using the VST version of VEPro!

So conclusion must be, since connecting to the PC server using the AU version is working, that it has to do with the VST version.

I have set-up the PCserver with the inbound rules as written in the manual, but it's not working reliable.
Sometimes it seem that I can connect to A NEW instance from Cubase by giving the IP-address, but it's far from working smooth.

Can anyone help me??

Everything - I mean EVERYTHING - is updated to the latest version.

Hope to hear from YOU!

Regards Stig

Helpful as always!

Thanks!

Have you ever considered Cubase/Nuendo?

Hi Dewdman42

Thank you for your reply. I will dive into your solutions.

Regards Stig

Hi

I Consider moving back to Logic from Cubase. I just want to know if anyone here uses Synchron libraries + Logic AND articulation sets. And if you do, how do you manage the limitation with "only" 3 KS output?

Best Regards

I'll reply myself!!

I didn't see that you only provide expression maps for the Basic presets. Sorry!

Hi

You have created maps for this library, but somehow it doesn't work at all here!

(Why can't we just drag in screenshots????)

Let me give you an example: In Cubase I have this 1. violin track routed to my PC Server with VEPro 7 and all my string libraries. In the Expression map window I load the map you supply and here the KS for Sustain is C#0 + C1

In the VI it's C0+F#0+C1.

It's an error isn't it?

Can you help???

Hi

Yes I know that CC's are just CC's.

The problem is that I have, for a long time, used CC2 as VelXF and in the Synchron Strings FX this is the case, as the CC1 is used as an articulation switch.

So my asking was specific about any conflicts in the Synchron Strings Pro that could be the result if I would use CC1.

It's really easy to edit the Synchron Strings FX to do what I want.

Best Stig

Ah okay!

I thought it was the default patches I had loaded!

You are right of course!

Hi

I'm trying to integrate the use of the Synchron Strings Pro and Synchron Strings Elite a little bit, and just want to hear if any of you have ran into problems trying to change the CC used for Vel. XF on the Pro to CC1?

Regards 

Stig Christensen MUSICMIND

Well I don't have crashes and run all my plug-ins decouple both in Logic, Cubase and S1.

But it's a mess with the wrong CC numbers!!

What is going on?

Hi Paul

I think you got away far too easy here!
I don't need to "feel" anything in this matter!

What I am after is the most efficient set-up meaning, will VEPro run more efficiently with say 3 or 4 instances, each holding 30 - 50 instruments - Kontakt and SY Player - OR with every instrument in it's own instance, making around 100 - 150 instances.

Naturally not all instruments are loaded all the same time, many of them will just stay idle, waiting to be launched.
So my Q is: Will that amount of instances 100 - 150, even if 30% of them will hold an instrument that is disabled, bring VEPro 7 to its knees or is the load on the system equal to the other set-up, with 3 or 4 instances holding all the instruments with around 30 to 50 each?

Best Regards Stig

Hi

This just plays really bad together with the maps from Babylonwaves, which all starts on C-2, using the full range of the midi system.

So it forces me to edit all of your maps or the 450 maps that I already have loaded from Babylonwaves.
And it's impossible - at least to me - to find a way to do these edits with the help of an app. it's really annoying to experience the little interest developpers in general - and you are one of the good guys, I know - shows in trying to make their product play nice together with all the rest.
I am not the only one using far to much time on setting things in system, time that goes from my projects.
Sorry for letting of the steam!