I have the same problem but the description is not described. Can i have information in regard of this? Thanks !

Hello,

I'm buying a new PC to run a full orchestra inside MIR Pro. Here is the question : will I benefit a lot from a i7 6800k versus a i7 7700k for this task? Can the higher clock speed of the 7700k (4,5 ghz versus the 3,4 ghz of the 6800k) compensate for the lower number of cores versus the 6800k?

Finally, if there is a difference in performance between the 2 cpu, is it a big one? Like 20, 30, etc, more instruments playing simultanously for one cpu versus the other... Is a i7 7700k OK to play a lot of instruments simultanously?

I will equip my new PC with big SSDs, and high clock speed RAM.


Thank ypu very much !

Thank you for taking the time to answer me guys,  but do you have information about the ''programmation'' of these?

If someone want to share information about how to make a double stop,  triple and quadruple stop real and credible on VSL strings,  it would be very appreciated.

I own Orch 1 + 2 with the extensions.

Thanks again,

Vincent

 Hello everyone!

What is the best way to simulate multiple stops on strings instruments?  I would love to do sustain double stops and arco triple and quadruple stops...

Is there a trick to make them sound credible? (I know the sound and the technique on the real instrument...)

Thank you for your time,

Vincent

 A big + 1 mpower88  !!!!!

Imagine a wordbuilder-type by VSL!  If that thing would be the same quality as the rest of their products...  Imagine that thing...   

 Hello VSL team!

I plan to buy soon muted Trumpet C and muted Tenor Trombonne.  I see that the the only muted articulations available for horn are for the Viennese one.  And they are ''Stopped'' type.

Do you think that we could see in a near futur regular muted type for the triple horn?  I'm still building my VSL setup and it looks to be a big missing in your library...

Thank you for your time,

Vincent

I just bought this library...

It blends so well with the rest of the VSL Orchestra in Vienna Mir Pro! 

Thank you VSL for your top-quality products,  continue your good work! 

 Finally! 

I was afraid that there would no be discount for students this year. 

Thank you VSL!

 Thank you cgerneay for all the information you give to us.  Can you tell me if the performance trill marcato can replace a traditionnal marcato performance patch?

For classical music,  am I right to say that Solo Strings 1 are better?  For fast passages and more complicated figures,  it would be very interresting to see what the DS can do...

From my point of view,  I see Solo strings 1,  Appassionata,  Orchestral,  and Chamber like pure instruments.  Dimension Strings,  for my needs,  would serve most as a mixing tool,  to improve the sound of Appassionata and Orchestral Strings 1 and 2.

Hello everyone!

Does this articulation can act as a normal performance marcato patch?

Thank you,

Vincent

For the people who like me misunderstood the offer.  

I just discovered this today in the newsmail letter.  

Buy the Dimension Violins today and get the cellos,  basses and violas later FOR FREE.  Not only the violins.

What a fantastic deal.  VSL.  

OMG!!!!!! DID I MISS SOMETHING?  IS THAT ALL THE COMPLETE DIMENSION STRINGS FOR 695 EUROS??????????????

IF I BUY NOW THE VIOLINS I WILL RECEIVE THE BASSES,  VIOLAS AND CELLOS FOR FREE WHEN THEY RELEASE??????????????

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE VIOLINS OMGGGGGG!

That's not cool.  I'm now forced to buy Orchestral Strings + Dimension strings.  

An other really interessting question would be : Could they do the same thing with the other instruments?  Create legato-sustain 4 velocity layers for the trumpets,  the french horns,  ect?

Hey William!

I tought that there were no legato transition used in these patches.  I tought they were just mono sustains patches like the ones in the short-long articulations called ''auto''.

How does it work?  Is it 2 legato performance velocity layers navigating inside 4 velocity sustain patches?  So between each note there is still a true recorded legato interval?  Do I understand correctly?  

If yes,  those are really nice patches.  

BUT,  I don't see them for chamber strings.  Only for Appassionata and Orchestral Strings.  

The patches you're talking about are described like this in the manual : Legato with 4 velocity layers in the sustains

The true legato intervals have been recorded for only two velocity layers.  The patches you're talking have 4 velocity layers in the sustains,  but not in the legato.  It can't be more clear.

The phasing that I hear with the chamber violins and the transposed one playing ine unison is really unacceptable.  Very present and dirty. 

Thank you DG for the information. 

What are you talking about William?  All the old libraries have 2 velocity layers for the performance patches...

Maybe you are talking about the 4 velocity layers legato sustain patches?

These are not legato patches.  These are faked legato patches with sustain samples.

 One supporter,  hourra! 

First of all,  congratulation for the VSL  team for their last product,  the Dimension Strings!  What an amazing release!  This,  coupled with Mir Pro,  VI Pro 2, the outstanding number of articulations available for all your collections...  The quality of these sampled articulations,  the quality of your programming...  

Seriously,  you are such an wonderful company!  Passionate,  revolutionnary,  maniac  ( )...  I couldn't imagine doing my work without all your tools...

I created this thread to bring up an important point... Like the Boss said : 

With the release of Vienna Dimension Strings, do the other Vienna Symphonic Library string products become redundant?

Our motto, in the 12 years of Vienna Symphonic Library’s history, has always been to develop products that expand the existing product range rather than making former products obsolete. This applies to Vienna Dimension Strings as well. Of course they may be used by themselves, but the timbre of a huge string section, such as our Appassionata Strings with 20 violins, cannot be replaced by 8 violins. On the other hand, adding some or all of the new Vienna Dimension Strings violins to the Chamber Strings, Orchestral Strings or Appassionata Strings expands their spectrum, and their possibilities, in a tremendous way. If you look at it that way, Vienna Dimension Strings will provide a huge increase in value for the existing string ensembles.

...  Vienna Dimension is not a product to replace the older libraries,  it's there to complete them,  and push further their possibilities...  I'm starting to understand this...  After all this time...  

Even with the huge amount of time that between the Dimension libraries and the Standard (and extended of course) release,  the only thing that can really make them differs in quality (I'm not talking about divisi here,  but the quality of the samples),  and make one appear truly older than the newer,  are the performance articulations.

2 velocity layers versus 4 velocity layers makes a really big difference.  Performance patches are the heart of a virtual instrument and what makes it alive.  

Since the Dimension products are complementary of the Standard product,  is there any possibility that the VSL team updates the performance patches of the old libraries?  

Doing that would improves a lot the anciens library! That would make them 6-7 years younger!  That would make them to the new standard of quality that the Dimension series have reached.  Then this would be the absolute perfect combination of VSL libraries, both in possibilities,  and in quality.

Thank you again for you amazing work!  The olders libraries are so big and full of ressources,  it would be truly amazing if you could upgrade them and put up to date.

Vincent

Thank you very much Paul for your help,  I know what to buy now.  

Can you tell me why even with differents articulations,  I hear phasing with the chamber strings when playing in unison?  I thought that transposing the patch would solve this issue...

I don't hear any problem with woodwinds or brass,  orchestral and appassionata strings.  But with the chamber there is a lot of phasing.  

Thank you again,

Vincent

 Hello everyone.

I need some informations for my next strings purchase.  It would be very appreciated if the VSL team could answer my question because it's crucial for my purchase.

Do this combination for the dimension string would create any phasing issues for the same articulation played in unison,  in full string tutti or partial string tutti?  The number indicates the player,  and when (2) or (3) is next to it,  it means the same players but with the the same patch transposed 1 or 2 semitones higher,  and corrected via the pitch wheel (0 or 31).

Violins 1 :  1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8   + 1(2) 2(2) 3(2) 4(2)  (12 players)

Violins 2 :  5(2) + 6(2) + 7(2) + 8(2) + 1(3) + 2(3) + 3(3) + 4(3) + 5(3) + 6(3)  (10 players)

I'm asking this because,  even with the semitone trick,  there is a lot of phasing with the chamber strings.

Thank you very much for your help!

Vincent

Stephan,  what a nice vendor,  what a nice gentleman.   

 NO STUDENT DISCOUNT THIS MONTH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

 VSL is such a revolutionnary company that sometimes I don't stop to ask things and complain.  Sorry for this. 

 Wow,  thank you very much for your help William!