Thanks, Ben!

Will do so!

Best,

-ZWaves

Hello VSL users,

I have upgraded to the latest Vienna Ensemble Pro 7. By doing so it has completely overwritten the previous version 6 Pro. However I still see Vienna Ensemble 6 hanging on my system, the free one that comes with every VI instrument we purchase. I was wondering if that's normal and if any updates are coming to the free version as well?

Thanks!

Hy gyprock,

I just finished incorporating my VSL SE Synchron Bundle into my Cubase template yesterday. This was my approach:

• Create an Instance per Orchestral Section in VEP 7 Pro ending up with total of 6 Instances - Woodwinds, Brass, Percussion, Harp & Plucked, Choir, Strings.
• Create Folders in every instance to house each orchestral family instruments in e.g. Flutes, Oboes, Clarinets, Bassons, Saxes for the Woodwinds. Horns, Trumpets, Trombones, Low Brass for the Brass, and etc.
• Load every instrument in its own Synchron Player instance sharing a port but each instrument/Synchron Player having their own MIDI channel. Example - Flutes: Piccolo on Port 1, Channel 1; Flute 1 on Port 1, Channel 2, Flute 2 on Port 1, Channel 3 etc. Moving on to the Oboes - Oboe 1 (French) on Port 2, Channel 1, Oboe 2 (Vienna) on Port 2, Channel 2 etc.
• Move on to the next Instance housing the Brass Section and repeating the process. Horns on Port 1, Channels 1 till 4, Trumpets on Port 2, Channels 1 till 11 etc. I have also created some instruments with a Classic or Close preset from the mixer window to be on their own channel for easier access through the sequencer (Cubase).
• Within each Instance, each Folder/Orchestral Section has its own audio output going directly out of VEP. In the Woodwinds Section: All Flutes are routed to OUT 1/ OUT 2, All Oboes to OUT 3/ OUT 4, and etc. In the next Instance, Brass, same thing. Horns going to OUT 1/ OUT 2, Trumpets to OUT 3/ OUT 4 etc.
• In Cubase recreate all Instrument Sections in Folders - Woodwinds, Brass, Percussion, Harp & Plucked, Choir, Strings. Create subfolders for each instrument family e.g. Flutes, Oboe, Clarinets, Bassoons, Saxes for the Woodwinds. Horns, Trumpets, Trombones, Low Brass for the Brass, and etc.
• Create Rack Instruments in Cubase in order to be able to connect to each VEP Instance and relable them with corresponding names e.g. Woods, Brass, etc.
• Enable the necessary amount of Output Channels in each Rack Instrument depending on how many outputs are used on the other side in VEP. This creates individual channels in the Mixer window e.g. (Woodwinds) Flutes, Oboes, Clarinets, etc. , (Brass) Horns, Trumpets, Trombones, Low Brass untill all Instances are now routed to Cubase's Mixer.
• Route those mixer channels to group channels at the front of the template for easy access e.g. Woodwinds Group, Brass Group, etc. Route the group tracks to a Submaster Group track, then finally route the Submaster to the Stereo out.
• Create individual MIDI tracks that connect to the Rack Intrument that matches their section (e.g. Woods, Brass, Percussion, etc.)

This is the way I have designed it and seems to give me quite the flexibility without getting overboard on the resources. I disable all channels in VEP but leave Cubase's tracks active and let them all load upon startup of the template. Any time I need an instrument to work with I just enable it on the VEP side. I hope this helps!

Cheers!

-ZWaves 

Hi Benjamin,

Every time you see the “x” sign it simply means that this particular instrument is included in that particular volume. It goes for all of them. The Appassionata Strings in Vol. 2 are included as a Bonus which means you will find them to have only a few of the articulations. Like Sustains with no Legato patches for example, one kind of Short articulation and etc. In other words your choice will be more limited but nevertheless you’ll have Appassionata Strings included as a Bonus.

If you decide to purchase Volume 3 however, you’re going to have many more articulations and you can completely replace your Appassionata Strings from Vol. 2.

Hope that clarifies it for you!

Cheers!

-ZWaves

 

Hi,

It would be best for you to complete your VI SE Vol 2 while the sections are still available, then crossgrade for a very small price to the Synchronized version. You'll take advantage of having and using both players.

Cheers!

Hi dear VSL freinds,

This is probably a question for Dietz but Paul if you do know this please chime in here:

Are there any plans to integrate the MIRx extensions/bundle into the new Synchron Player? I quite like the flexibility to be able to switch quickly between venues as they sound very different from each other and they are all ready to go and use. This system works perfectly in the VI and VI Pro Players. It would be sad to see it go, not to mention the investment that was made.

I also second the inlcusion of a Synchron Player button on the bottom left of VE Pro! That would be real nice!

Thanks!

ZWaves

Hi,

I just wanted to report a bug that I think I've discovered. I was playing with the Show/Hide Mixer Elements menu in the lower left hand corner of the mixer in Vienna Ensemble Pro standalone. I had a channel loaded with a patch of Kontakt 6. Started hiding the different portions of the channels (e.g. Inputs, Effects, Sends, etc.) then I showed them back up. At this point I have noticed that the Kontakt slot looked as if it was empty where the plug-in was supposed to be. I could still play the instrument but it was invisible and therfore unable to edit, disable, or remove.

I wanted to bring this to your attention in case it has slipped out unnoticed so far.

Regards,

ZWaves

I have opened up my template in VEPro 7 and all my VI Pro Instances that were preloaded with MIRx and used to work in VEPro 6 are now not loading. It is asking me to please check that either I have my licenses available on my Vienna Key or the Vienna data folder is assigned in the Direcrtory Manager.

I have not changed any of my configuration related to that plus all of the MIRx venues load when running VI Pro in Standalone mode.

SOLVED:

For some reason VEPro was not recognizing my samples drives at all. Restarting VEPro seemed to have solved the problem.

Dear VSL,

Is there any chance the new and imporved plug-ins (Compressor Pro, Equalizer Pro, Exciter Pro, Limiter Pro, Analyzer Pro) can be made available as a standart VSTi / AU /AAX plug-ins for our DAW?

Regards,

ZWaves

Thanks for the suggestion! It didn't work as smooth (and fast) as you've described in your case. It had to be the longer route for me, of course.

• I moved the Play.vst out of its original VST folder and performed "Scan For Changes". Nothing siginificant happened. Moved Play.vst back into the VST folder and did "Scan For Changes" again. That didn't detect any differences. Plug-in did not show up in the list.

• Moved Play.vst out again. This time I did a full "Reset And Rescan All" instead. Took a while. Couple of AU plug-ins failed validation but I was able to right click on them and rescan that particular plug-in which activated them.

• Finaly, dragged Play.vst back into its proper place and did "Scan For Changes". This time around Play got properly validated!

My template is alive! :)

Thanks again for the workaround!

Since last VEPro 7 update today (ver. 7.0.799) Play VST failes plug-in scan in the Server app. It cannot be found in the list of Instruments/Effects in the preferences after so it can be rescanned/re-enabled. It worked fine initially before the update.

Any solution would be highgly appreciated since Play represents 1/3 of my orchestral template and I do not want to convert everything to the AU version which I do not trust.

Thanks!

Just purchased the Vienna Protection Plan yesterday! Thank you Paul for the clarification! I have a permanent setup and my Steinberg Key doesn't move at all out of my studio, but I feel safer that way. I wasn't even aware of the alternative and how costly it could be if something happens to your dongle and you have no plan! Been paying yearly ZDT plan on my iLok for years at very similar price. After communicating with a VSL representative a couple of times, I realized how great it is to finally have this Protection Plan!

Thank you, Dietz! Still patiently awaiting since the day you've announced it

Today, Spitfire Audio anounced their 'new' direction (which has been crafted for the last two years now...)

Spitfire Studio Strings!

Their poster reads as follows:

"An incredibly versatile pro-end dry stage sample library - giving you total control."

I hate to have been the prophet about this while back when this forum thread first started...

Cheers to all with much love!

Thanks, Paul for your reply!

Looks like I'm going to have to reload some of my instances into a new Server Project that has less than 16 ports in order to fit my needs and not use my master template designed around Cubase Pro. Hope AVID enhances their AAX format one day...

Much appreciated!

Regards,

-Z

Hello everyone!

I've been wondering if there is a way to let Pro Tools recognize all the ports that are allocated in VEPro 6's prefereneces? Currently I have VEPro set to 32 MIDI ports and 64 Audio Inputs/Outputs. I have no problem seeing and routing audio onto Aux Tracks, but accessing more than Port 16 on MIDI/Instruments tracks seems to be unavailable.

I've briefly checked Pro Tools' functionnality to connect to VEPro Server in the past when I first purchased VEPro, read the manual and etc. but I don't seem to be able to find any answers. Manual itself shows an example with 16 ports only.

I've been primarily using Cubase Pro instead and it is working there like a charm with zero problems.

Anyone having solutions? Should I just "move on"? :)

Much appreciated!

It is a problem that you don't save your instances as well, but just your project. Sometimes I do get some weired issues of my MIR Pro stage locking up on me. Can't move the instruments around, rotate them, etc.

I've noticed that it happens only on my very large projects running with lots of tabbed instances looking like your project. The way I ended up fixing it was to save each individual instance, then create a new project and load just that one instance that was giving me the problem. That instantly unfroze functionality.

After that, when I reopened the large server project everything seemed to be functioning fine. I did a backup save of my original project under a different name, and so I did for each instance before I started reloading the problematic instance into itself. In fact to stay on the safe side, you should probably be working on a copy of everything!

That worked for me on a couple of occasions and hasn't failed me so far. I do recommend you save not only the server project file, but each instance as well.

Best,

ZWaves

Hey Johnny,

I am running VE Pro 6 Server in 64bit and am connecting to it on Cubase 9.5 Pro with 32 MIDI ports/16 MIDI channels each per instance and have it configured with 64 audio outputs per instance with no porblem. The key is to use Cubase's Instrument Rack with MIDI tracks connecting to each instance of VE Pro within Cubase.

Don't use Instruments Tracks. Also don't forget to enable your additional audio outputs in the VST Instruments Panel (in the right zone or F11 key).

Let me know how that works!

Best,

-ZWaves

This is all good info! I'm keeping a close eye on this one :)

Consider me in if anything needs to be tested before or around release time. I'd be one of the first ones to load this puppy in when the time comes.

Thank you, Dietz!

Hi pacificm,

The advantage of using MIRx is the already configured presets (a lot of them if not all done by Dietz :o) ). Basically it is almost a plug-and-play solution for your Vienna Instruments (Pro). In addition, there is MIRx mode available within MIR Pro engine. You press F7 on your keyboard and based on the selected instrument icon, it will "MIRx-ify" your instruments around the stage in terms of positioning, EQ, microphone/output configuration, and just about anything else. You could either let it do both the positioning only or positioning and output as well. There are bunch of checkmarks on the floating window (within MIR Pro engine and VE Pro) that are pretty self explanatory what they do.

Now in your case, as you are using the plug-in option of MIR, a lot of settings have to be completed manually, since there is no way for Vienna Ensemble Pro (VE Pro)  or MIR Pro for example to know what is going on within your DAW other than an incoming signal to be processed. Hence the little name box inside your MIR Pro Plug-in allowing you to name your instrument, pick a color etc.

You can continue to use MIR Pro the way you do, or you could transition to VE Pro enterily and have full use of the presets quickly. Also you could combine the methods, like use MIRx on your Vienna instruments and go with the predefined settings (fast), and in the case with 3rd party virtual instruments within your DAW or VE Pro deploy them to MIR Pro, do our own positioning, EQ, Level etc. You could do any combination of the above.

The advantage of using MIRx is speed and ease of mind when it comes to making the technical decisions. So is the MIRx mode within MIR Pro. You could either use it on an instrument, use it partially or not use it at all. It is totally up to you.

Hope that sheds further light on the concept.

-ZWaves

Hey pacificm,

Have you tried purging the memory? There are apps out there that can do the job and work on any inactive processes. I can recommend this one:

https://www.seense.com/menubarstats/

Cheers!

-ZWaves

Hi Tsegas Andreas,

I listenned to your piece. You've created a great composition and a nice harmony between the different members of the string orchestra. A lot of it is of course thanks to the wonderful Dimension Strings by VSL. One thing I would suggest, technically speaking only, is to work on your dynamics. Use the Velocity X-Fade, Expression, and even Volume features a little more to recreate the natural "swelling" of all those Violins, Violas, Cellis, and Basses. Also change articulations as often as you can to make it sound as the players are using different bowing techniques as they play. Other than that, it is a beautiful composition!

Cheers!

Thanks, Gabriel!

Good to know everyone who joined enjoyed it! I am looking forward to the advanced features that'll be presented further into the class! I need that knowledge to take full advantage of VSL's tools!

Cheers!

I have enrolled into the program! It begins this 1 July 2018 which is pretty soon. I appreciate the good feedback and recommendation, Paul!

LAJ: Thanks for the link!!

I've been wondering if there is a version of the viennatraining.com website in English and if the program is even offered to the English speaking professionals?