Legato Performance Combos

Hi there.

I'm about to get rid of my two slaves and replace them by a  PC with AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X loaded with 256 GB RAM. The other choice would be an i9 10980XE. Do you guys have an idea about how they compare? Which one would you recommend?

Thanx!!!

Thanks Paul.

Updates applied. Now it works.

THANKS!!!

Hi there.

Don't know if this has been posted before, but cannot find the two timestretching patches seen in the tutorial video posted by Paul. Using the latest Synchron Player.

Screen capture attached.

Thanks

PD: Hope everybody is safe

Originally Posted by: labman

Would love to hear soem specifc MAS input , as we live and die by the VEP6 mas version on our rigs.

THanks folks !

Hi labman. I have the upgrade but haven't installed it yet. Hope to do it soon.

Menawhile you can check this video. Steve Steele is a very reliable guy and he uses DP. 

Cheers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2nI-AJEu88

Originally Posted by: Paul

SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions come with new licenses and new sample content. You can install them, like any other of our products, wherever it suits you. 

Best,
Paul

Great!!

Thanks Paul. This is gonna be a wonderful birthday self-present

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi!

Lots of questions, I will answer them one by one!

 

@Roberto D: 

Sample Location: You can store the data wherever you like. In Synchron Player, sample location management is done in Preferences => Database. Moving the VI sample content to a backup drive is a good idea, this way you can always move data around when needed. 

 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul

Do they have to be installed in the same computer as the VI version?

My SE libraries are installed in a slave that is running out of space and don't want to add an extre SSD. I wonder if I can install the syncronized version on a different computer.

Thanx!!!

+1

Originally Posted by: jmgotsoul

Some additional information I discovered today...

As I stated, once I have VE Pro and Pro Tools up and running my CPU usage can be very high. What I discovered today is if I go into VE Pro and disable a few channels, the CPU usage is drastically reduced. An example today is the CPU usage was around 1700% and after randomly disabling 4 channels the CPU usage went down to around 400%. If I then turn around and re-enable the channels the CPU usage remains low. I tried this out 3 times and every single time I saw the same behavior.

I have no explanation for this but I wanted to add this information in case it helps someone to help me.

This is something to do with mac OSX. I run into this problem anytime. I'm on Digital peformer 9.5 and 10. As jmgotsoul and others pointed in this forum, some channels must be disabled and then enabled to make it work without reaching a massive percentage of usage. This problem only happens when the DAW connects the VEP template. Otherwise the percentage is low. And as I said before, it only happens in Mac. My Windows server doesn't need to have channels disabled/enabled.

It's not a big deal. Load VEP template(s), launch DAW, disable/enable a few channels in your VEP and then you're ready to go. I need to do this every time I open different projects, but working with preserved instances this workaround only takes less than a minute or so.

Originally Posted by: Dewdman42

The multi-port macro that I fixed does actually work pretty darn well, I would not categorize it as "not fully functional". 

Please, excuse me if it sounded I was criticising your environment. I cannot talk about something I haven't tried. Bear in mind English is not my mother tongue so maybe I didn't explain myself properly. I do apologize.

I was talking about the one provided by VSL which, even though is good, is not as useable as other workarounds.

I've been korking with Logic since version 3 and I used to love that program. However every update I've installed seems more focused on EDM and other type of music more than film composing, where DP shines, at least to me. Don't misunderstand me. I've done quite a few film scores with Logic and was able over the years to accomodate it to my workflow. If the VST3 issue were resolved before, I'd still be composing with Logic.

No DAW is perfect. It's juts a matter of enjoying their goods and stand their bads

The AU protocol is a real PITA in Logic. Even with the enviroment workaround (which is not fully functional), you still get a limited number of outputs from VEP. That's why I gave up.

As Dewdman says, there is always Cubase. And other options too. I went for Digital Performer. MAS protocol is rock solid and allows to have not 32 but 48 MIDI ports from each instance. Not bad for huge templates.

Hope u can get your issue resolved soon

Still testing here. So far so good. DP10 opens my 9.52 documents with no problems and everything runs smooth and easy. I guess I'll find some issues at some point but as of today, everything is fine.

As I'm adding a new computer to my rig, I'm creating a new template from scratch but not with DP10 but 9.52 just in case anything goes wrong. People at motunation are not reporting problems either AFAIK.

Are u using Mac or Windows?

This makes a huge difference for me. Purging in my Windows slave does reduce the amount of RAM used. In my Mac Pro (master) it makes no difference at all. I don't know why.

I use disable channels instead. That's the only way  I can reduce both RAM and CPU resources.

I have a similar setup as yours. Just similar. Here's what I do:

I connect my MacPro to my router from one port and connect to my windows slave using the other one. I have static IPs on both computers. Gigabit ethernet is enough. You don't need 10GB.

With this setup I only have internet in my MacPro. Whenever I need to update software on my slave I just plug a wifi usb dongle, since this computer doesn't have wifi built in. If you want to have "cabled" internet on both computers, you need a gigabit switch. Most of the available switches will do the job.

What I mean by "unload" is actually disabling channels from the left column. Purging samples never worked for me on my MacPro. It does work on my windows slave.

Anyway... I guess I'll have to install the latest VEP version at some point but I'm in serious doubt it will fix my problems. I'll be adding another computer to my studio soon and this MacPro will become a slave, so probably the wiser solution will be running Windows via Parallels or BootCamp on it and then running VEP.

Originally Posted by: FabioA

About RAM usage: Kontakt reports the ram used, but Kontakt istances use an unexplected high amount of ram for the graphic & scripting part. Some company is worst than others.

Thanks for your answer!

I didn't know that fact. However it seems that Windows handles RAM in a much more efficient way. If I unload an instrument in my Windows slave (let's say 200MB) the task manager reveals 200 more mb available. In other words, what is shown in Kontak is what it really pulls out from the system. No more, no less.

Thank you anyway, Fabio :)

Hi there.

I'm experiencing a high RAM usage in my MacPro 2012 with 64GB.

I'm creating a new temlate and so far I have one instance of VEP with 5 Kontakt instruments. The total amount used shoud be around 800MB according to the Kontak plugin but the activity monitor reports 1,64GB.

Also, in another template with about 50 to 60 instrument tracks (Omnisphere and Kontak), the CPU usage goes up to 500-600%. I have to unload 2 or 3 instruments and then turn them back on to lower the CPU usage up to 140-160%. This template is also having a high RAM usage.

I'm using DP 9.5 and VEP 6.0.16778 and running everything from SSDs

Are these normal bahaviours? Is anyone experiencing something similar?

Thanks!!

I guess it's something to do with DP.

I've been using Logic Pro for ages until I decided swichting to DP 9.5. Since then I have the same issue. I'm on Mac.

Thanks again Paul.

Actually that's the way I'm working now (6x16 template with 32 outs each). I just wanted to use 2x48  in order to simplify routing inside Logic. We Logic users are really looking forward to having the AU3 implemented ASAP. No pressure intended, he he.

Thanks a lot!!

Hi Paul.

Thanks a lot for your quick reply.

I guess there is nothing to do besides moving to a different DAW

Sorry if this question has been answered before. I've been looking around the forum and haven't found a clear answer.

I'm using logic multiport template, either 2x48 and 6x16, and the maximum number of audio outs I get is 32. I've changed everything in both the host and the server and when I restart I get the same 32 outputs limit. Is this number audio hardware dependant?

Here are my specs:

Master Mac Pro 2012 12 core, 32 RAM, OS 10.11.6

Slave i7 3930K, 32 RAM, Windows 7

MOTU 828MKII (Kinda old but does its job. Maybe this is the bottleneck)

Logic Pro 10.2.4

Any help will be greatly appreciated :)

Originally Posted by: Paul

These are the available templates (attached as a zip file to this post):

• 1x16 MIDI Ports (256 MIDI Channels, 1 instance of Vienna Ensemble PRO)
• 2x48 MIDI Ports (1536 MIDI Channels, 2 instances of Vienna Ensemble PRO)
• 6x16 MIDI Ports (1536 MIDI Channels, 6 instances of Vienna Ensemble PRO)

 

Best, 
Paul

Oh my...

1536 MIDI Channels?

Are u sure it's not a misprint?

You made my day

Big thanx!!

Originally Posted by: thenightwatch

I made a "how to connect VEPro to DP" video. It shows DP utilizing 48 MIDI ports. I also briefly touch on a couple related DP tips like MIDI Device Groups (which I plan on discussing in detail in a later video).

http://youtu.be/1nYIzd3Ca7U

Great tutorial!

Thanx

Originally Posted by: thenightwatch

 

I may make a video later but I can tell you it's working perfectly. No more Event plugin or AU concerns. If you've been thinking about switching to DP for those reasons then you'll be very happy. I'm really impressed by Vienna's wise thinking.

If you have any particular questions about how the MAS support works or looks, I'd be glad to answer. Basically though, it's similar to how you'd imagine it looks and works in Cubase under VST3. When I opened my template today I saw all of the MIDI ports and channels like in the image from my earlier post above (the "VSL Winds" menu are all the ports and then the sub-menus are the channels for one instance of VEPro).

Thanx for your answer and help, nightwatch 

I'm glad to know there's a new way for DP users to work. Guess it's time to find some spare time, download the demo and start messing around with it.  By the way, a video would be awesome

Thanks a lot!!