I understand what you are saying, but VE pro is telling MIR Pro to auto-guess the MIR profile.  And VE Pro knows whether there is a patch change or just MIDI activity, so why can't it just not tell MIR Pro to auto-guess the profile when there is just MIDI activity but no patch change.

If I have “Auto-Guess MIR profile on patch changes” enabled in the MIR Pro 3D preferences in VE Pro, should that cause the MIR profile to auto-guess on MIDI activity for an existing patch if have “Enable Cells on MIDI Activity” enabled in VI Pro settings?  

VSL support says that this is intended behavior and that one should just disable “Auto-Guess MIR profile on patch changes”

I maintain that MIDI activity should not auto-guess the MIR profile under any circumstances.  Enable Cells on MIDI activity is a feature to optimize memory not load MIR profiles.

This looks like a bug to me.  It is easily demonstrated by doing the following:

Create a VI Pro instrument in VE Pro with “Automatic adding of MIR Pro insert effect” enabled

Select a Venue in MIR Pro 3D

Load a VI Pro preset (this causes the auto-guess to load a MIR profile)

In VI Pro settings, turn on “Enable Cells on MIDDI Activity”

Disable samples: VE Pro>Vienna Instruments>Disable Samples

Change the MIR profile to something other than the auto-guessed profile (e.g., select Violins II instead of Violins I profile)

Do something to cause MIDI activity.  This causes the MIR profile to incorrectly change to the auto-guess profile.  This example is not a patch change, so it should not auto-guess the MIR profile.  It is merely a sample load of an existing patch.

It does default to 512 if you relaunch the program, but 32 is available?  Just reset it after launch.

Also, if you use it as a plugin in Logic or MainStage the latency preferences stick.

Edit:  You're right it defaults differently for 32 in the stand alone player.  But it works as expected in a sequencer.

Latency @ 32 is available for me (same machine spec).  What audio interface are you using?  Maybe that is what is limiting you.

Thanks.  

Does one need a second VE Pro license to run both types of servers on the same machine?  

What about MIR Pro 3D?  Do we need to run two of these at the same time if we want MIR Pro 3D inserted for each instrument in both VE Pro servers?  If so does this require a second license?

read about undockng and docking a window within an instance:

https://www.vsl.info/en/manuals/vep7/navigation-mixer

Working for me on Mac.  One thing I would check.  Did you uninstall both VE Pro and Vienna Imperial (e-licenser versions) before installing the iLok versions.  If not you may be getting a conflict in the integrated plugin list.  I had this happen early on when using MIR Pro. 

Try connecting to a new instance and then change the configuration using the instance preferences.

I don't have Cubase so I haven't tried this, but the VE Pro manual in the VE Pro Plugins section describes that you can set the channel configuration in the plugin instance preferences.  Does this work as shown?  This seems to be unique to the VST3 surround plugin.

Did you use the surround VST3 plugin?  There's a special one in VST3 for that.

I've had similar problems getting surround to work in Logic with VE Pro.  The best I've been able to do is start out in 5.1, then reselect the VE Pro AU3 in 5.1 mode.  Then convert the Logic project to 7.1. and it can sometimes convert the VE Pro to recognize that it is in 7.1.  You have to do this while still connected.  But I've never been able to get to 7.1.2 Dolby.  It just doesn't recognize that format in VE Pro AU3.  And at this point it only presents stereo types of connections if you try to reinstantiate the plugin.

So I am new to this surround stuff, but MIR Pro 3D has me interested in understanding this, and with Dolby Atmos and binaural encoding it is now possible to do spacial audio without investing in a ton of otherwise useless speakers. 

I have a question about panning.  In Logic Pro 10.7.4, I have setup for VE Pro and MIR Pro 3D.  I have followed the instructions about setting up Dolby Atmos 7.1.2 in Logic.  I had inserted an instance of VE Pro in a channel strip and Atmos converted it to surround as expected.  It also set the panning for that channel strip to Balance.  There are options to change it to 3D Object Panner, Binaural Panner and Stereo.  But there doesn't seem to be a way to disable it.  The MIR Pro 3D manual says it is preferable to disable all other panning as MIR Pro 3D provides all of that, of course.  

So does anyone know how to disable the panner in the VE Pro channel strip?  

Thanks for any suggestions.

I'm guessing the current version is not installed correctly.  Do you have Vienna Instruments Pro.toolkit in the following location:  /Library/Application Support/VSL/Vienna Ensemble Pro/Plugins/ ?

The toolkit files are the integrated apps for VE Pro (i.e., the clickable icons at the bottom of VE Pro.

If not, then you need to reinstall.

You don't need an iLok license as this is now free software.  You also don't need your e-licenser dongle if the current version from Vienna Assistant is installed correctly.

Can you run the standalone app (without the e-licenser key)?  If so, what version is installed.  If not then you need to reinstall.  Should be version 2.6.99

Edit.  I just saw you are on PC.  You should see similar files somewhere.  Not sure of the path names.

You can drag and drop a .vep64 file onto an empty server project and it will open it.

Or you can double click a .vep64 file and it will open it into a server project, empty or not.

Or you can import an instance (it's in the File menu) from an existing .vesp64 file into an empty server project.

Take your pick.

Flip the AB switch.  If it is set to B then it is an open string so won't vib.

VI Pro iLok is available as VST3.  You don't need a license for it as it's a free plugin.  That's why it isn't convertible.

The plugin versions of MIRacle are distributed with the MIR Pro plugin.  Since that is not yet converted to iLok, the plugin versions are not yet available with the new UI.  

The integrated version in VE Pro is the new UI (as you say).  

To get the synchron stage preset, just open it in the old version and save it as a user preset.  Then move that preset file to where the presets for the integrated version in VE Pro are stored.  

Originally Posted by: civilization 3

 MIRacle is different and won't load, it's missing things, like Synchron

See this thread:

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t58664-Question-about-the-new-MIRacle-update

The two versions of VE are the pro version and the non-pro version.  The non-pro version is the old Vienna Ensemble.  It only exists if you need it for compatibility with old projects,

The Invalid project occurs if the conversion to iLok fails. The conversion seems to be unreliable for large projects.  I have noticed two scenarios that work reliably for me.  

One: if you still have e-licenser control center installed, you need to do the "offline conversion method".  Just plug in your e-licenser key to do the conversion.  

Two: if you uninstall the e-licenser control center software, then the "online conversion method" works reliably.

You can monitor the conversion by showing the Vienna Helper app (it's in the right side menu bar).  It shows up if a conversion is needed.  The Vienna Helper app should show only "converted" or "cache hit" entries.  If you see errors or broken pipe messages, then your conversion failed and you'll eventually get an invalid project message.

On the integrated version of EQ Pro, if you have band 1 or 8 enabled, then it inhibits sound.  I believe they are aware of this bug.  Ben mentioned it on another forum. 

Using the Vienna Suite version of this plugin seems to work correctly.

I had the same problem.  I just saved the download and installed it manually.  The files are all there.  Something wrong with the automatic installer.