Yes, would be great to get it working again.  Thanks

Thank you for the response, Rich.  I'm for any solution that would work, but it still seems to me that if the "Articulation" column SY had the the same behavior as the "Matrix" column in VI, then problem would be solved.

In VI, when recieving a PRG Chg that is outside the viewing area, VI jumps to that corresponing matrix.  So the 2 things that would make it work are (1) scrollability, and (2) when recieving a PRG Chg, go to that selection.  Just as it works in the VI matrix column.  No?

This behavior didn't exist in the 1st several interations of VIPro, but was added later. I've been working using that feature for many years.  Of course, I absolutly love the Synchron player, and am able to get by with more effort, but still... it makes things visually cramped and selecting a chore.      

I have no idea what it takes for the VSL team to do this, and appreciate the vigorous work they are doing in all areas. But maybe sometime this might happen.

Again, thanks for the reply.

Yes, I use Program Change as well.

In the SY Player

set the "Articulation" column trigger to Program Change 0

set the "Type" column to none

The "Articulation" column becomes the equivilent of the "matrix" in VI

However as you can see, if you have many patches it does create a graphic and selection problem.

In my Violins 1 example.  I use both the Synchron 1 library and Orchestral Strings together using the same midi channel.  So there needs to be an empty slot where a patch is played by the other library format.  

My wish has been for the SY player "Articulation column to be scrollable and behave moe like the "matix" column

in VI Pro.

I work in Digital Performer, which lacks somewhat in keyswitch implementation, naming etc. So for me, looking at a patch change number instead of serveral notes is simpler.  And the chasing ability works great.

Thanks for doing this Beat!  Great usefull information that is not so obvious for many.

For anyone intertested in superb string sculpting, listen to Beat's version of Edvard Grieg's Holberg Suite.  Especially the Prelude!  My favorite.

I'm loving the work done on SYzd Woodwinds.  Much more consistent velocity levels throughout.  I run it along side 

corresponding VI libraries for the full compliment of articulations.  I'm happy.

Exactly what I needed.  Thank you, richhickey!

I've got a template set up for the full sections, works great.  My template is quite a bit different than the factory set up.  I need to make the divisi sections now and I trying to find the best way.  It seems the easiest way would be to mute players in the mixer, but I'm concerned that I'll still be streaming voices that are muted.  I looked at the "Delete all slots containing missing patches" in the sub-menu, but can quite figure it out.

Suggestions?

Thanks

Yes, I agree with all said here.  The fact that VSL has continually, and consistently improved their whole product range and methodology over many years, has raised the bar for all developers.  I love the way that VSL seems to do these experiments like the Dimension libraries, and Synchron libraries.  Always moving forward with new approaches and the evolution of computing power.  I'm hooked.

Kai,

This is the method I use.  It uses the matrices as patches (switched with program change)

I hope VSL will at some point, implement a scrolling articulation list in Synchron Player that functions much like the matrix list in VIPRO.  For those of us who use this method.

Originally Posted by: Kai

Hi Paolo,

in case you haven’t seen this:

www.articulate-preset.com

This sounds like what you are looking for … and much more.

Cheers

Kai

Yes, you are right that it does function correctly.  It is just unreadable.  Thanks for the reply.

Paul,

This feature is holding me back from implementing this otherwise fantastic VSL innovation.

With the VI player I use program change where each matrix is an articulation patch, letting me use a

single chaseable command to trigger a patch.  I use anywhere from 20 -80 matrixes (articulations) in an

instrument, and the way that VIPro handles this aspect really has been working for me.

I have Synchron Strings I, and Synchron Appassionata and I want to start using the new player in my work.

Hope that this may be implemented soon!

Thanks

Very nice, Alan.  And I'm in complete agreement with you on more vibrato on lower velocities.

I believe that Synchron 1 has the nuts and bolts and I/m hoping that the VSL plan would be to augment it with varying attacks and longer transitions, not to mention soft expressive vib layers.

I can't imagine that VSL doesn't have a plan for portamento, col legno, sul patches, detache and so on.  As well as the integration of past string libraries.  

Yes, absolutely!!  Especially the tuning.  It's one of the most important things that contribute to realism.  Wish I had a second set!  

Thanks again VSL.  I feel lucky that there is a company in my lifetime willing to take on these sampling experiments.  

I don't agree that the Synchronized Chamber is a "backward step"

Others have said that there are fewer articulations which isn't the case.  They simply have been incorperated into

other patches.  There are now 2nd violins (instead of using the transposition trick).  Not to mention the new dimension capabilities of the Synchron player.  

I always thought that Chamber Strings were a great value and now even more so.

I can't wait till Dimension Strings receive this treatment, although the huge sample set make it an altogether

larger task.  

It's been working for me.

Yes! bow attack, and vibrato control simultaneously.  Loving the concept behind what you've done.  

I very much like that fewer patches are doing what used to take many more.

For me, I'd like to see Sycnhron II be a volume of different attacks, and a complete set of long transitions for

portamento and slurs.  

Synchron Strings I is surely a massive undertaking, and this the most control for expressive realizations that I've seen.

Yes I use program change as well.  So a scrollable "Articulation" list would be what I need.  I seem to remember that the matrixes in VI started out as non scrollable until that feature was added.

Looking forward to delve into the player!

8 - 9 layers!!!  Thank you for continually raising the bar, gentlemen.

Of course.  Don't assume I mean't 1st iteration.  I believe I heard mention of this and that it would eventually happen.

Paul,

I'm excited with the prospect of controlling Dimension Strings with the Sy Player.

With this be on the table?

Very nice! Indeed.  Thanks for the great post.

In complete agreement with all Dimension strings comments.  As well as being THE divisi solution.  I'm excitedd about the prospects of using them alongside Synchron strings.  I imagine tweaking 8 vel layers is a chore, but worth the wait.  Any other company doing 8 vel layers?...  I didn't think so.  

Continually raising the bar.  Thanks VSL!

ddunn

Paul,

Thanks for your and the team"s dilligence on the new library.  I already bought the library but am perfectly happy

to wait til it meets your standards.  Thanks for all the cutting edge things you do!

Marnix,

Thanks for response.  I must wait till I finish my current work with VIPRO ver. 2.4.14074 before I do anymore testing.

But I've not seen a control within VIPRO to enable/disable program change.  

The "ksw" button in the matrix view was only for toggling keyswitch or PC views, as both were always active.

Not correct?

Also it's strange that an iPad controller sending PC to VIPRO works correctly, while it doesn't via playback from DP.

Thanks for your help.

ddunn

I have a similar problem with program change in Digital Performer.

I haven't been able to get Prg Change to work since VIPRO vers. 2.4.14074

 VIPRO responds correctly if I send PC from a control surface, but not as part of the DP sequence.  Strange.  It's worked perfectly for years.  I've tried each new version of VI/VE Pro, without success.  Keep reverting back.

Did you ever get it to work?

ddunn

Paul,

Thanks, will do.  Give me a few days. 

I uninstalled latest vers, of ViPRO and VePRO.  

Went back to ViPRO 2.4.14074 .  Works again.

Digital Performer vers. 9.13

Thanks,

Darryl Dunn