Solved: Depends on the scale settings, use chromatic to avoid the repeating of a sinlge note in a trill

Gerard

Hello,

Maybe someone can shed her/his light on a problem I have. Trying to create trills with the 33 RE-So_perf-trill_Vib and noVib patches (recorders) 1/32 notes. For most notes on the scale I can make a reasonable HT trill, but for the F5, Bes5, F6, and Bes6 for the soprano recorder it does not work, only the initial note is repeated in the trill tempo. For other recorders other notes have this behaviour. Am I forgetting something, or what causes this unwelcome behaviour for my trill sequences ?

I do hope there is an explanation, and a cure,

regards,

Gerard

That makes it clear, thanks.

(I do have quite some VI libraries that do have recorded trills; in single instrument brass, and wooodwinds, and also in Chamber strings and so I expected it also for the recorders)

regards, Gerard

Thanks, for responding. I cannot find a trill patch anywhere, but sure I can make one but that is not a patch with a recorded trill then,

regards,

Gerard

Hello,

Not all patches for the recorders appear to present the articulation suggested by the patch name and description in the manual. I remember there was mention of that already in a VSL forum some time ago, but I cannot find it with "search". Notably trills are not in the patches with that name (and the dynamics patches are not very, eehh, dynamic for some recorders, but that maybe in the nature of the instruments). Anyone else misses the trills, or found a work around ?

regards,

Gerard

Chiming in,

I had a similar problem with the Bass Tuba a month ago (Cubase 9 VE pro). Using a Cubase back up of the project made it go away.

In another recent post I have reported a strange erratic behaviour on the matrix tuning, which changed upon articulation changes without me having applied any changes. Setting the tunng for all matrices manually made it go away.

regards,

Gerard

Thanks for the reply. It was not intended to change the tunings, it happened. But, with your remark on the tuning affecting the matrices, I went through all of 'm and found they were all initially on the 12 tone scale, but was not set on that scale by me on purpose (maybe it was a default, when making a new matrix). On playback, with articulations from the various matrices, the changing of the tuning happened. Based on your remarks I changed the tuning of all matrices to just intonation, and now they stay that way during playback. Don't ask me how this happened it all just did,

regards,

Gerard

Hi,

In a piece for Bass Tuba and Flügelhorn I made, the scale changes frequently for notably the Bass Tuba, but occasionally also for the Flügelhorn, from just intonation (intended) to 12 tone, depending the articulation played, and which is evoked by Cubase 9 Pro expression maps. The maps and the matrices and presets are made by me. I do not have absolute pitch hearing, and do not notice the change in sound, but it appears a bit odd to me. Is it intended during preparation and selection of the articulation used for the VI articulation, or are my expression maps giving spurious commands ? In short, must I scrutinize the maps (made using a home build suite of VB scripts) ? I have not read about this behaviour before,

regards,

Gerard

Andi, thanks, I can well agree with that approach. Lacking "in depth" experience in instrumentation, I add to the matrices one or two with the articulations that appeal to me, but those are without "any" structure,

regards,
Gerard

While trying to make expr. maps for chamber strings and for solo woodwinds and brass', I have of course also been looking for "universal principles" to facilitate making maps without too much effort. I would be interested to find out/hear about any "principles" VSL had in making the expr. maps with the presets that were made available for us.

regards Gerard

Yes, thank you,

Gerard

Andi,

That was it. Thanks very much for your perseverance, and please accept my apology for being kind of narrow sighted

(but then again, I change PC only every 7 years or so, and did not think about installing the VE and VI with which I started with VSL on the previous PC),

regards,

Gerard

Hi,

In the mixer view in VI pro the required drums are all listed, and receive midi. But the instrument views do not come up and there is no signal in the level meters (and in the DAW).

I have used the VIframes for VI pro and all others. I have redownloaded the Jazzdrums and the Jazzdrum utilities and installed all anew. I have tried all other Jazz drums VIframes. All to no avail.

All other vsl instruments work as expected with Cubase 7.5 with VI pro and VE pro 5 as they used on the pre-migration PC (on Windows 7). Only the Jazz drums don't.

In you, Andy, or anyone would know a of a method to make the old Jazz drums come to live again on my new Windows 8.1 PC ??

regards,

Gerard

Hello,

I have done both procedures, but I still cannot get to my JAZZ DRUMS.

In the mixer view in VI pro the required drums are all listed, and receive midi. But the instrument views do not come up and there is no signal in the level meters (and in the DAW).

(I can access the upright bass.)

The drums have stopped in the VI pro since migration to a new PC using Windows 8.1. Everything else of VSL, including the other libraries, works (so far).

Any clue on what to do to ake it work again ?

regards,

It is known that Cubase 7.5.3. has an issue with expression map articulations. Cubase 7.5.2 does not have that. Reverting to 7.5.2 solved the problem for me.

Gerard

Thanks for the response.

(its hard to choose between extending my instruments and a PC that can handle 'm; maybe I try getting a used rig)

regards

Hello too,

I am also interested in what are nowadays suitable items to have in a PC/workstation used with mainly VSL.

In my case that is not with zilloins of tracks, but still I would like to make something that would last a couple of years.

Would anybody know of a "website" with such information for notably work with VSL ?