Originally Posted by: Paul

We're really excited about all the great feedback for those new pianos! I wonder what's next....

Synchron Imperial or Synchronized Vienna Imperial?

Thanks Paul.

Hi all,

It sounds to me like the Synchron pianos use the same samples for more than a single key. Is this the case? Is whole tone or semitone sampling used?

Thanks,

John

For me it's the simplicity of the system. If you want to use two or thirty articulations you can do that as easily as possible. There's never anything to fight against if you don't want to work a particular way.

Just tried it on MacOS in Logic and it's fine. I'll reinstall my Windows stuff when I get a chance.

Thanks again,

John

Hi Paul,

It's the same on all presets. Panning aside, the strange thing is the MID1 is definitely the close mic. The mic on the Close fader has much more reverb.

Maybe it's a bug in my setup. 

Thanks,

John

I'm using the CFX (Standard) in Cubase (Win 10). I haven't tested this on MacOS.

It appears the mics are mixed up. The close sounding mic is controlled by the Mid fader, while the Close fader seems to be the Decca Tree mains -or so I believe as the piano is distant and on the right. The Steinway is fine.

Yes. You can just removie it.

Thanks Paul.

It's an amazing library BTW!

Hi all.

I love the Synchron Steinway D, but I felt the playing experience was very realistic as it was before the update. There was a liveliness about it that I've only experienced on the real thing. I also felt that the mapping of the velocities was spot on. I didn't get harshness unless I went looking for it. The balance between key velocity and timbre felt like I was playing a real Hamburg D. Somehow the lower velocities seem to off now.

Is there anything I can do to bring back the wilder side of the piano? I increased the MIDI sensitivity, but it doesn't feel the same.

I could alway remove the update I suppose, but I'd rather try and modify the piano newer version.

The update's only a few days old. It's in the Synchron updates in your user area.

It would be like choosing one of my children -if I had any! 

I have a feeling the Synchron Imperial will be my favourite, if it captures that glorious Bösendorfer tenor as well as Vienna Imperial did.

Have you told Synchron Pianos where to find the Steinway library?

Well the bot has good taste! 

Originally Posted by: freedmand

I am considering purchasing a used Surface Pro (the very 1st edition) as a permanent computer which I will attach my MIDI piano controller to and output audio using the Vienna Imperial instrument.

My question is do you think there will be enough processing power to play without considerable latency or overload? I am considering a model with an Intel i5-3317U processor (quad core, 1.70 GHz) and 4gb of RAM.

Please let me know if anyone has a similar set-up or would suspect the experience to be fairly seamless. I know the Vienna Imperial was designed for dual core and 2gb of RAM (with 4gb recommended) so I am hoping it will work fairly well.

I ran it for years on a laptop with similar specs. Vienna Imperial is very light on computer resources.

That was my post from the thread below in June. Who is demonsss? Why would anyone bother to copy someone else's post and pass it off as their own? Not that it matters. It's just weird.

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t48896-I-ll-never-forsake-you-Vienna-Imperial#post272949

Quite apart from the excellence of the VI libraries, VI Pro is such an elegant solution to problems inherent in libriaries with a large number of articulations. With VI Pro everything is so easy, yet hugely flexible and powerful. 

Many thanks Paul.

Hi all,

I was wondering if there's any disadvantage to using a sample SSD formatted for NTFS when using macOS. I know the mac will read NTFS, but does it read it as quickly as a natively formatted disk?

Thanks

Originally Posted by: Beat Kaufmann

Hi guys
Please do not forget the meanwhile and unfortunately somewhat underrated Chamber Strings Library. Although the library is about 14 years old, it still has not gotten a real "Holbersuite demo challenger" - even not from non-VSL products (see demos). The great thing about the Chamber Strings Library is that it does not have any weakness. Furthermore, it has many articulations (through all the instruments), it is extremely precise, it sounds very musical and it is at the same time soft and lively...

Beat

Chamber Strings is the next on my list. There's a litheness to the VI libraries that I haven't heard with anything else. I don't think the age should make a difference, as sampling hasn't changed much in that period, although more modern computers can make light work of it. 

I got a new Dell XPS 15 today. I've been putting the CFX through its paces (using my old Apogee Mini-Me). This is an upgrade from my old Samsung i5. 

Anyway, I think glitches are probably more to do with disk latency than bandwidth. With four pairs plus the centre tree mic, the throughput is actually very small. I'm using the 8k sample preload. I use a 2014 Samsung SSD in a Startech enclusure through usb 3.0.

I do get spikes that correspond to small spikes in the system CPU meter. This is probably power management or something that can be turned off.

I'd go higher than that. Try doubling it. You could max it out, but it will take quite a while to load. Streaming from the system disc isn't considered a great idea, but that's much less of an issue with an SSD. Go up in the thread count too, as it can improve streaming performance.

Is it possible you have a streaming issue? Perhaps you could try increasing the preload size of samples in RAM. Are you using an external USB3/Thunderbolt drive? 

I have no problem running Close1 and an abient mic on a five year old Samsung laptop with with a twin core i5 processor, but I can't get the latency as low as I'd like on more than one mic pair. 

Perhaps you could try a different DAW, such as Reaper (which is free to try) to make sure the problem isn't related to Ableton.

Originally Posted by: Piotr Katzpersky

I've got ears. And I love music. And taking those two factors I can say that this mock-up is... well, fake to my ears. 

Absolutely. The more experienced you are as a composer, the harder it is to fool your ears, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by: mh-7635

If you are referring to music, then a great deal.

If you are referring to sample programming, then a great deal.

If you are referring to Synchron, then I am using my ears, my professional experience and a personal subjectivity - how else can it be when considering purchase.

 

Fantastic music!