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1.Helpful info about IP address setup 9/14/2017 8:37:19 PM

Sounds like you are doing everything the way Greg suggests. I wouldn't think having something connected to the other Ethernet port on the Mac would cause problems, but I would also test it with that port unplugged.

Not PC literate so I can't offer any further suggestions.

2.Helpful info about IP address setup 8/10/2017 11:15:28 PM

Hi All-

A friend shared this detailed best practices info for setting up IP addresses on a slave. It references MACs, but I think the general advice about setting up a private LAN just for VEP are useful in both worlds.

In Mac world the set up he describes takes place in system preferences / network. In my setup I use wi-fi for internet connections on both master and slave computers, and the VEP connection is a cat 6 cable from the laptop (via a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter) to the slave computer.

Hope this is helpful:

 


I always set static IPs on all machines involved in the VEP network. 
 
The best practice for a Mac Pro that has two ethernet ports is to connect one port to your house network that is internet connected, and connect the other port to a separate, closed gigabit ethernet switch that only connects to other VEP machines and does not connect to the internet.
 
You can use any setting that works (Manual, DHCP, etc.) for the internet connected port. It doesn’t matter.
 
Set the VEP port to a static IP using a different subnet. In other words, if your internet router is using the 192.168.1.x subnet, put the VEP network on something else — 192.168.25.x, for example. Set each VEP computer to a different IP address on the private VEP subnet (i.e. Computer1: 192.168.25.2, Computer2: 192.168.25.3, Computer3: 192.168.25.4, and so on). The useable numbers for the fourth octet, as it’s called, is any number from 2 to 254. Don’t use 0, 1 or 255. They are reserved. 
 
You don’t have to use the 192.168.x.x subnet. There are several subnets ranges reserved for the LAN (used for local communications within a private network) and are not allowed on the WAN. They are:
 
10.0.0.0 – 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255
 
The 169.254.0.0 – 169.254.255.255 range is a special case which I don’t recommend using. I’ve seen people use this subnet for VEP, but I find it to be very unpredictable. It is used for link-local addresses between two hosts on a single link (direct, no routing) when no IP address(es) is(are) otherwise specified. You’ll see this “self-assigned” address when you lose internet connection, for example.
 
With the networking assignments in System Prefs for the VEP ethernet port, only 2 of the fields need to be filled: IP Address (manually specified) and Subnet Mask (which should be 255.255.255.0). There is no Routing, and there is no need for DNS. Those 2 fields are for traversing the internet and have no bearing on a local network.
 
The reason we do it this way is because VEP eats up a tremendous amount of bandwidth on a network, and mixing its packets with regular packets from internet connected computers can cause all kinds of deleterious effects — stalling, hangs, dropouts, packet resend requests, packet collisions, general slowness, buffering, etc. Putting the VEP machines on a private, closed switch prevents all of those effects and allow both the internet and the VEP networks to function at full efficiency without interfering with each other.
 
One thing to know: when configured this way, the slave VEP machines can’t go on the internet unless they also have a secondary connection( like WiFi or a 2nd ethernet port). Most of the time, this doesn’t matter because you only need to go online to do a few updates now and then. I particularly like this config with Windows computers because, since it’s not on the internet, there is no need for anti-virus which can slow the shit out of a machine.
 
Now what if you’re using a laptop as your main machine? In that case, you should use the ethernet port for VEP connected via a private, closed ethernet switch along with the other VEP machines, and use WiFi for internet. Don’t mix them. It just doesn’t work out in the long run.
 
You could do what I did, which is to buy the OWC Thunderbolt 2 Dock. That gives me an extra ethernet port that I use for VEP and I use a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter for the internet connection when I want fast internet. Usually I just use WiFi, though.
 
Hope this helps! Sorry it was so verbose, but this networking stuff is not as simple as people seem to think…
3.What do most film composers use for a DAW? I know its not Pro Tools. 5/8/2014 1:04:29 AM

Hi all,

Interesting thread. Like some of you I've used DP (started there in v2. whoa...) and Logic and even PT (but not much) to do midi/orchestra film and TV work. I switched to Logic 7 from DP because I kept having crashes in DP that seemed to have to do with the file size.

I like to write a score as one long document (crazy I know, but its my workflow- i really like to be able to play from cue to cue, or to look at large sections of the score with the current music in place, and to go back and reference the way i dealt with a theme in a previous cue) and with DP5, when the file (sequence) got to be a certain size, things began to go south, sometimes in ways that were unrecoverable. This happened whether or not I was using chunks as a workaround. So that meant having to write individual sequences for each cue, or at least (in the old days) double reels, and then keep a separate session with rough mixes in place to use for watching the whole project. Many times I have been able to address directors' or producers' concerns just by playing a cue and isolating certain elements they are not liking. Of course that doesn't work at the same speed if you can't get under the hood on individual cues.

I did go back to DP7 last year for a couple of projects, because I wanted to see how it handles multi-timbral instruments. IMHO DP is way easier to deal with than Logic in this regard. To me, the "object-oriented" interface in Logic is pretty much a nightmare, or at least requires a LOT more care and feeding than DP. Just try to use the Logic solo function... Some improvements are now in Logic X, but it's still really clumsy. And as observed elsewhere, DP really is optimized for film work in some very important ways, especially dealing with video and clicks, which are invaluable when you're working with live ensembles. Also DP deals with viewing and editing automation much more cleanly that Logic.

Things to love about Logic: being able to mute any object in the arrange page with a key command. DP will let you do this with Midi objects but not audio and that drives me pretty crazy, again because its a part of my workflow. The Logic X plugs and VI's are good. The sampler is robust and will accomodate a lot of sample formats. And, for doing audio recording, the way Logic deals with comping is way the best among DP. PT and Logic. Really bulletproof and fast.

And dittos on thenightwatch: But I see very good reasons to learn a couple of contrasting DAWs. 

I too love the experience of switching back and forth. And spending some time playing around in Reason and Live because of the excellent differences in those UIs and the weird results they will yield.

mac pro 2.4 / OSX 10.8.5 / 16GB / Avid192s / NI Komplete, All Spectrasonics, VEP, UAD 

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