Originally Posted by: Beat Kaufmann

Originally Posted by: lupine

Yes, I also hope Paul can chime in here. Their older strings libraries such as Appassionata and Dimension Strings have 4 layers for longs and legatos, and more for the shorts.
I'd like a new string library (specially a library with an improved legato like they said) to come with a larger amount of layers other than features like simultaneously two rooms recording, in order to avoid faking missing layers with CC11 envelops or filters.
I also wonder why octave and fifth runs come in major scales only and why the ascending and descending third runs are not specular: if you want to play an ascending third and then come back down you can't do that on every note, because they did not record every single third up and down :(

Hello Lupine
Hello to all those who are still undecided about taking advantage of the offer until the end of July.

I am currently working on a demo that will show the sound and its possibilities of this new library in detail. Here is a small preview - at least audio-wise.

The examples are all without presets, but all as the libraries were originally recorded. There is no better way to judge the library and its sound. Have fun so far.

You ask about the number of layers. Unfortunately I don't know the answer to this question, but from the sound point of view this question doesn't arise. It simply sounds natural from soft to loud, without any gradations as with earlier libraries. Especially in combination with the Timbre Controller (CC08) you can support the sound as it suits you.

As far as runs are concerned, the Legati are so great that you can write out a run and it actually sounds the same as the runs that are stored as a whole. So it doesn't bother me that there are only major runs.

During the production of the demo, I never had the feeling that I could not realise one of my ideas. With earlier libraries, there were often limitations that made a necessary game form simply not possible. Of course, you have to have a certain dexterity and know the sound possibilities of the library well in order to get a real playing result.

See you later - when the demo and the video are ready.
Beat

Hello Beat,

thank you your kind feedback on the library, very appreciated.
I am looking forward to your demo and video.

Yes, I also hope Paul can chime in here. Their older strings libraries such as Appassionata and Dimension Strings have 4 layers for longs and legatos, and more for the shorts.
I'd like a new string library (specially a library with an improved legato like they said) to come with a larger amount of layers other than features like simultaneously two rooms recording, in order to avoid faking missing layers with CC11 envelops or filters.
I also wonder why octave and fifth runs come in major scales only and why the ascending and descending third runs are not specular: if you want to play an ascending third and then come back down you can't do that on every note, because they did not record every single third up and down :(

Here is the post regarding the velocity layers:

Originally Posted by: Paul

@FPaolo: We have recorded 3 velocities for all main articulations (shorts, longs, all legatos, portamentos, tremolos). 

Paul wrote the first page of this thread that they recorded 3 velocities for all articulations, which unfortunately seems very limited to me.

Originally Posted by: muziksculp

I don't see this info. on the product pages. Where did you see that the shorts are limited to three dynamic layers in Duality Strings ? 

Why three dynamic layers only, also for shorts?

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi, 

We have a great Fazioli at Synchron Stage Vienna now, but it has not been captured (yet). Quite an undertaking when you have a busy recording schedule like we luckily do... 

Best, 
Paul

Great news, I'm looking forward to it 

Hello,

could you please point me to the videos about the new Fazioli?
Thanks 

Originally Posted by: Vagfilm

This was a surprise (after the videos about the new Fazioli, I was expecting it to be the next synchron; maybe for Christmas???)... But this Bechstein is full of character and so different from the Bosendorfer Upright. Nice... Now I have to decide if I upgrade my D-274 to full, or if I buy the CFX, the BI or this new German Upright... Decisions, decisions...

I have one doubt about the demos, and the way it is handled with the iLok vs the old eLicenser way. I have already placed the order for all the demos and already have the serial numbers of each piano in myVSL/myOrders, but I don't have HD space to install all of them simultaneously. In the new iLok scheme, the free demos are only available to download until the 18th july, or can I download and activate the 30 days after the 18th July?

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi lupine, 

With our Synchron Series, we’ve established a new approach in terms of velocity layers, which is also supported by our timbre shift technology that allows gradual access to so many additional nuances of each velocity layer.
Any musical coloring between traditional layers is possible, by taking advantage of new technologies that grow as we improve our software and recording approaches over time. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,
I don't understand: how many velocity layers have been recorded for Synchron Woodwinds?
And what timbre adjust does? It's an artificial filtering/eq?

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi everybody, 

I'm afraid we never talk about unreleased products. Lessons learned . 

The BBO Woodwinds have been integrated with all velocity layers, we have just slightly adapted the preset structure to allign it with the Synchron logic. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,
I can't find anywhere info regarding the amount of recorder velocity layers for Synchron Woodwinds, why it's not advertised?

Hello Paul,

congratulation for this new library!
Could you please tell how many velocity layers does it come with?

Hello,

I had the same issue highlighted in the mp3 file and the cause was an improper manual setup of either my DAW or instrument patches in Synchron Player (colliding MIDI channels, colliding CCs...).

Regarding instead the Xfade related one I read on another forum that somebody resolved it by zero-ing the humanize tuning slider. I'll try that as soon as possible.

Hello Falcowe,

thanks for your reply.

These are the characteristics of my computer:
• iMac 27" 2020
• Intel i9-10910 3.6 GHz 10-core
• 128 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 RAM (~35 GB free RAM during project running)
• Internal NVMe SSD with both OS, applications and libraries samples
• DAW tested: Cubase 11 Pro and Studio One 5.3 Pro
• Sample rate: 44100
• Bit depth: 32 float

These are VE Pro 7 settings:
• 7 running instances on
• 3 threads per instance
• 23 MIDI ports per instance
• 8 audio outputs per instance
• 4 audio inputs per instance
• MIR Pro latency: 1024
• MIR Pro IR cache: 2 GB

I tried using a different computer (laptop) with lower specs but the issue is still there.
I have installed a third-party CPU monitor application and the strange thing is that the usage indicator of each virtual thread is always incredibly low, but the fan keep spinning like crazy and macOS internal activity indicator application shows the posted numbers (~300% idle - ~600% playback).
Looking at my computer specs it should not have those kind of problems, and it should not have as much thermal throttling since the the CPU usage never reaches full cores 100%.
I noticed that the CPU frequency is always around ~4.4GHz, could be that the culprit?

Hello,

I'm always having weird crashes as soon as my DAW project connects to a VE Pro 7 server project.
Two times on three it crashes and the only thing to do is manually killing the Synsopos process from my computer activity monitor, because if I don't do that and try restarting VE Pro 7 it hangs indefinitely!
I really hope we no longer will have to deal with Synsopos anymore once VSL will transition to iLOK.

Hope you can help. 

Hello,

as soon as I start playback on my DAW (connected to a VE Pro 7 server project) I notice VE Pro 7 filling up CPU usage (626% on a 10 cores CPU!) and my computer fan spinning like crazy at maximum speed.
Buffer size is set to maximum and all of my VSL instruments preload are set to maximum too.
Stopping playback does not turn my computer back to normal: VE Pro usage remains at 276% and fan continues spinning at maximum speed.
The only thing to do to stop that is closing VE Pro/DAW project 

My computer is using an Intel 10 cores CPU, 128GB RAM and internal NVME drive to store instruments samples.
Hope you can help.

Hello Andreas,

any news on the VST3 issue?

Hi VSL,

I noticed from the contents page that the soft sustains from BBO Zodiac are missing in the 12 horns and 9 trombones instruments of Synchron Brass. Is that correct?

Hello Paul,

that's fantastic and very welcome news!
Could you please detail the amount of velocity layers available for the different instruments/articulations?

Thanks

Hello Paul,

could you please tell how many dynamic layers does Synchron Elite Strings come with?
Thanks.

Hello,

the problem is only related to Synchron Player and VE Pro,
because Vienna Instruments Pro shows up the correct MIDI CC names.
I kindly ask VSL to check what differs in their implementation between Synchron Player and Vienna Instruments Pro with Studio One MIDI CC binding.

Thanks

I have just tried using the Studio One special offer code from VSL but it doesn't work 

Is there anybody who has encountered the same problem?

UPDATE: solved

Originally Posted by: Macker

Just to give my fellow Logic users a little sneak preview of what can be done with the latest Logic. It's a very sweet articulation feature, which is playing nicely here with Syz Dimension Strings in VEP7 via AU3.

Seem to be something familiar to Cubase users about the articulation display in this pic? Have Apple nicked Steinberg's Expression Maps feature now?

Logic adepts will know the answer.

I'll explain later.

(The pic attached is a grab from my Retina screen, it won't display inline in this forum without spoiling the necessary resolution; sorry, it has to be downloaded.)

WOW, I can't believe it's finally possible to do that in Logic 

I'm looking forward to your explanation 

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi everybody, 

I understand what you mean. 

Herb Tucmandl made these decisions in order to create stream-lined version of our products that allow a quick overview and high compatibility between sections. 

I can't make any promises at this point, but we will discuss how we can "bring those articulations back" and integrate them with the SYNCHRON-ized versions. 

Best,
Paul

Great, I'm looking forward to it!
Thanks

I also terribly miss a lot of other articulations from VI Appassionata Strings, such as the useful crescendos and diminuendos, staccato variations, harshes, legato slur, legato sfz and more.

Those are very great omissions and I wonder why VSL decided to remove them from Synchron-ized Appassionata Strings.

Please bring them back.

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi, 

We just added new mixer presets to all SYNCHRON-ized products (including our SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions). which makes it more comfortable to integrate those instruments with MIR Pro. 

The whole Synchron Player mixer is reset for this purpose, so that you're ready to apply the MIR magic to dry samples. 

What is reset?

• EQ
• Impulse Response
• Algo Reverb
• Panorama
• Volume

Find all SYNCHRON-ized Library Updates in MyVSL and the changelogs here. 

Best, 
Paul

Hello Paul,

great news!
Are these for Synchron-ized strings only? I can't find any recent update for Synchron-ized Woodwinds with the MIR unprocessed mixer preset.
Thanks

Originally Posted by: bbelius

Hi,

I nevert encountered such problems, be it with my
- current AMD Ryzen 5950x, 64GB RAM, NVMe SSD (as many mics as I like @128 buffer size),
- last system Intel i5 8600k, 32GB RAM, NVMe SSD (presets work perfectly @128 buffer size), or
- current notebook i5 8250U @1.8GHz, 16 GB RAM, NVMe SSD (2-3 mics work fine @128 buffer size).

1) What exact version of Windows 10 are you running?
2) Are you running stock Windows, or did you already optimized any settings related to performance and energy consumption, data-collection...?
3) Are you using ASIO driver?
4) What audio interface are you using at what buffer size?

Best, Ben

Hi Ben,

thanks for your reply.
Both of the computer I tested was Mac systems (Catalina and BigSur) with integrated audio card, no external audio interface