Ahoi everybody!

First of all: @Ben: I have posted this question in VI-Control and I appreciated your answer but since you said that you did not have tried yourself combining MIR with Synchron libraries I hope to get additional feedback/answers here!

I have Vienna MIR Pro 24 and the RoomPack 6 - Synchron Stage Vienna. Since I like to work with synchron and synchron-ized intruments this allows me to put other libraries instruments (including other vendors) into the same space as the synchron instruments, so far so good.

I consider buying RoomPack 1 - Vienna Konzerthaus but I am very unsure how to use the synchron or synchron-ized intruments (which have the synchron stage baked in) with this RoomPack. Does it make any sense to use synchron instruments or synchron-ized instruments with the Konzerthaus Roompack?

Best,
Martin

Hi Paul!

First of all, I hope that my statement did not come across as a rant. This was not my intention. If my wording was too harsh I apologize for that. I just wanted to give feedback.

Second, of course I still have faith in you and VSL. Otherwise I would not have asked if I have done an unnecessary investment, I would have stated it (and then probably would have ranted about it 😉)

Third, before losing confidence in you and your company I would phone in to clarify any problems. Talking to you in our native language or writing in a foreign language could make the big difference. Alternatively I board the “10er” and then the “60er”, you sure have a café or a bar near you 😉

So, if the eLicenser server is running until the warranty of the ViennaKey, it’s all good for me. If not I believe we will find a solution of course. As said my statement was just meant to be a considerate feedback!

Regards
Martin

As proposed I have bought a spare ViennaKey last December to have no downtime which I also cover with the Vienna Protection Plan. Was this an unnecessary investment since I have to change to iLok?
Your VSL Announcement at VI Control states that you offer a free €20 voucher with every ViennaKey order and the ViennaKey also is discounted. But the discount is not usefull if ViennaKey is going to become useless as well as the voucher. Do you expect people to buy a useless thing only to get a voucher? 

Maybe I missunterstood something or it is too early to critisize your intention because it is not final yet – which I hope!

Regards
Martin

I am working in Cubase 10.5 and VEP Pro 7 (Windows 10) with one track per instrument (and would like to retain this in any case if possible). Different articulations are realized with expression maps (preferring attributes over directions).
The problem is: Obviously different articulations need different track delays. I.e. playing double bass pizzicato needs a different track delay as if playing double bass legato (Synchron Library independent!).

How do you guys handle this problem?

My first solution would be to automate the track delay but I did not found any possibility to do that. So is there another work around?
I know I could break with my workflow (having only one track per instrument) but as said I would like to avoid this!

@VSL: Couldn't you align the track delays for each articulation per instrument? Regarding a post in https://vi-control.net/community/threads/different-track-delays-within-the-same-instrument.102856/post-4714224 it can be possible?

Thanx in advance for any ideas!

I voted for the String Ostinatos!

Maybe you can uninstall the driver updates via AVG Driver Updater?
Then you could update your drivers one by one until you know which on is the "bad" driver.
Maybe you also could use Windows System Restore to reset your system to an earlier state.

These are deeper inventions in your system so I hope the developers of VEP can give you a better hint which drivers are involved when adding an instance.

Hi Dewdman42!

Thank you for your fast response and sorry for giving you feedback so late!
I tried the cubase rack but I ran into two issues.

The first one: For some instruments (for example East West Hollywood Strings Diamond or Native Instruments) I have to use „multis“. This means that in one instance there is loaded the appropriate player (for example Play or Kontakt) and in this player the different patches for the different articulations are loaded. The different patches (i.e. articulations) are triggered via different MIDI channels so that in the Cubase expression maps the different MIDI Channels can be used used for the different articulations. So using the cubase rack I would have to change the MIDI channels in the expression maps every time the instrument sits in a different slot in Vienne Ensemble Pro.I will provide some snapshots because I am not sure if I expressed myself clearly enough 😊

The second one: I am used to click on „Edit instrument“ in the inspector (I have a keyboard shortcut for that of course) which opens the correlating instrument (i.e. the correlating instance in my setup) in Vienna Ensemble Pro. When I do this using the cubase rack it opens the correlating instance but not the correlating instrument. So I would have to scroll through all the instruments in the instance until I find the correct one

Would it be possible to eliminate these two issues using the Cubase rack?

Hi Dietz,

yes, you understood my question, of course!
And thank you for pointing me into the correct direction!

Regards
Martin

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

Working in Cubase 10.5 and Viennna Ensemble Pro Server 7.0 and MIR PRO 24 5.4 I want to use just one instrument track for each instrument. Different articulations are provided by expression maps.
This demands to have one instance per instrument

 Using MIR PRO it is possible to position several instruments on the (same) stage (as shown in the video called „Vienna MIR PRO Instrument Section“) if they are in the same instance.

Is it also possible to position intruments of different instances on one stage in MIR pro?
What i would like to achieve is to see all instances in my Vienna Ensemble Pro project on one MIR pro 24 stage.

Thank you in advance for any hints or clarifications!
Martin

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

Working in Cubase 10.5 and VE (Viennna Ensemble) Pro Server 7.0 and MIR pro 24 5.4 I want to use just one instrument track for each instrument. Different articulations are provided by expression maps.

This demands to have one instance per instrument. Is this true?

If I am not correct please provide me with hints to use plenty of instruments within one instance in conjunction with one instrument track in cubase per instrument. I would appreciate using one instance for more than one instrument. I would like to achive having one instrument track in cubase for 1st strings and one intrument track for 2nd strings and one intrument track vor violas and one instrument track for oboes and so on using only one instance in VE Pro.

Thank you in advance for any hints or clarifications!

Martin

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi guys, 

Check out page 27 in the VE Pro 7 manual (that's page 28 in the VE Pro 6 Manual). 

Best, 
Paul

thanx Paul for dropping in your hint, but that is was javajam and I said:
To decouple all instances you have to use the VST plugin. It is not possible to use the host software changing this for all instances (this was the initial question), only one change per instance is possible there.

I hope I do not miss anything since I am not an expert regarding VEP (but I love it anyway!)

This obiously has not chanched on VEPS7 (Vienna Ensemble Pro Server 7) unfortunately.

Hi everybody!

Is it possible to connect more than one Vienna Ensemble PRO plug-in with the same instance in Vienna Ensemble Pro 6?
If yes, how can a achieve this?

The reason why I want to do this is as follows:

• I would like to have one instance for strings, one for woodwinds, one for brass and so on. That's no rocket science, I know how to do that 
• I would like to use instrument tracks in Cubase (9.5) and would not like to use MIDI tracks.

To bring this two things together I would have to connect more instrument tracks (one for violins, one for violae, on for celli, ...) to the one instance (the string instance) where the appropriate instrument patches are loaded.

Thanx in advance!
Martin

Originally Posted by: Pixelpoet1985

so you don't get machine gunning on trills.

Got it :-)
This reads plausible and it also sounds the way you described it.

Thanx!!

Hi!

In the manual (VSL_SynchronStrings_I_Manual_v1.pdf) on page 16 in the description of the patch 17F VI-14_Leg-Fast-Vib_Close (which is LeFM in the default matrix) is stated:

[..]
Trills/fast legato, with vibrato
Trills up to 4th, all other intervals legato
[..]

What does "Trills up to 4th" mean? I can not figure out how to play trills with this patch? Or does this mean "playable trills" so that I have to play th trill for myself? If so, why "up to the 4th"?

Thanx in advance
Regards
Martin

The Synchron Strings I patchnames will auto-name in Synchron Player but they do not in Vienna Instruments an they probably won't.