Originally Posted by: PaoloT

Thank you, Fabio! I admit that at the moment I've no idea of what to do to improve it. It is not yet as warm and expressive as I would like, but I wonder if SSP are made to be warm. Any hint would be warmly appreciated!

(Maybe working on the final EQ would be useful. At the moment I've done it so that the result was clean and clear; maybe I should go the other direction).

Paolo

Hi Paolo,

Thanks for sharing your Elgar's Enigma Demo using VSL SSP.

Listening to many commercial recording versions of Elgar's Enigma Variations, and comparing them to your demo using SSP, I noticed that your demo sounds too bright, and too upfront, compared to many of the orchestral recordings, I would suggest adding more room ambience via Reverb, to push back the samples into a more unified and more reverberant space, and use some mid-high frequency cuts to darken the very bright timbre of the strings. 

Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Originally Posted by: MatFluor

Hi,

The current offer is mighty tempting, a good start into the new year. Now before I mindlessly purchase samples like a maniac:

I know about the difference in content between the SY-zed and SY-zed SE version of Dimension Strings. My question is about the sonic character. Simply said, I read (correct me if I'm wrong) that e.g. the Orchestral strings versions are both remastered, but differently, resulting in a different sonic character between these two versions. Is this the case for the Dimensions Strings as well? Meaning - do the SE Dimension Strings "sound the same"/have the same samples and remastering as their bigger SYzed counterpart? If not - what could I expect the difference to be?

I own SE but not the VI Dim Strings.

Thanks,
Mat

The Synchronized Dim-Strings should sound identical to the VI Dim-Strings, provided you disable the Synchronized versions' Synchron IR, and Built-In Reverb. Since both libraries use the same samples. 

Oh.. I thought you were asking of the Dim-Strings VI version should be similar to the Synchronized version. Regarding the SE version. I'm not sure exactly how that compares to the Synchronized Dim-Strings, but I'm guessing they should be quite similar.

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi muziksculp, 

Time will tell!

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul, 

Thanks .

Wishing You, and the rest of the VSL team Happy Holidays, and New Year. 

Yes, time will tell.

I'm confident that VSL will bring my dreams to reality, it's just a matter of time. Exciting times ahead !  

Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Hi,

Yes, I have been dreaming of more Synchron Libraries being released in the near future. (Not Synchronized). 

i.e. 

• Synchron Solo Strings
• Synchron Chamber Strings
• Synchron Appassionata Strings
• Synchron Woodwinds Pro
• Synchron Brass Pro

So.. Will my dream come true, or will it remain a dream ?  

Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Sorry, double post. 

I find Synchron Strings Pro Legatos much better, and smoother than Synchron Strings I . Especially the lower dynamics in SSPro are amazing. 

Just my opinion.  

I'm very impressed with Synchron Strings Pro (full) so.. I'm hoping that we can have a Synchron Pro based Orchestra in the future that gives us :

* Synchron Pro Woodwinds

* Synchron Pro Brass

* Synchron Pro Strings Con-Sordino

* Synchron Pro Chamber Strings

* Synchron Pro Solo Strings

This will take some time to develop, and release, but it will be the best sounding Orchestral Library on the planet when it's completed. 

I think we already have quite a few Synchron Percussion libraries already.  

Originally Posted by: eric.spichiger

Hello VSL Team,

I have compared Legato patches from both strings libraries :

For SS1, patch 11F VI-14_Legato-Vib and for SSP, patch 01 VI-14 Legato

In synchron player, this corresponds to Legato Regular Vib for SS1 and Legato Regular Vib Normal release, Normal Attack.

I produced the attached WAV with the CC7, CC1, CC1 and CC2 = 127 for both patches.

I noticed that the SSP patch has a soft attack for the max velocity =127 compared to the SS1 one.

Is this by design ?

I would like to find back the sharp attack of the SS1 (not Marcato).

I know that I could easily incorporate the SS1 patch into the SSP preset, but I wondered if it is the correct way to proceed.

Thank you for commenting this.

Eric

Hi,

For Synch. Strings Pro. You can layer a Spicc. (i.e. VI-14 Spic) via slot crossfade, with the legato. 

I also dialed a smalll amount of delay to the Spicc. by adjusting the attack value of the envelope to taste, so that it blends in with the legato, and does not stick out too much. I also set a limit for the max amount of slot Xfade for the Spicc. to around 44, via the Control Page. so I can adjust it via CC 20, to my taste, but it will not accidentally exceed the max value of 44. to make sure it doesn't sound loud, and fake when using Slot Xfade fader. 

Hope this helps. 

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi Muziksculp,

You can control the marcato amount in the tremolo / marcato articulation with that controller. 

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,

OK. Got it. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Hi,

Q.  What does the 'Marcato'  labeled Fader in the Performance area do  ? 

I couldn't find any info about it. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Originally Posted by: Paul

Hi Muziksculp, 

I think that our upcoming demos and videos will help you with that decision. 

You cannot go wrong with the Standard Library, and if you hear something that really enchants you about the Full Library Mixes, you know what to do!

Best, 
Paul

Hi Paul,

Thank You for the feedback. 

OK. I look forward to watching your upcoming demos, and videos to make my decision, and Yes, I can always buy the Standard version first, then upgrade to the Full version if I feel I need the extra mics. 

Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Hi VSL / Paul,

Thank You for developing Synchron Strings Pro. 

I'm surely buying it, and have decided not to bother installing Synchron Strings I, which I had deleted a long time ago (was not happy with the library).

I think Synchron Strings Pro will be perfect for my needs, since it has a lot of what Synch.Strings I offered , but greatly improved, and has a lot more new articulations. 

Now, I'm just trying to decide if I need Synch. Strings Pro Full or Standard version, I know I can purchase Standard first, then upgrade to full version if I feel I need the extra mics.

Any reason I should just go for the Full version of SSPro instead of Standard right away ? will I get a nicer, fuller sound by combining the mics of the Full version ? or any other detail that the Full version will offer that makes the strings sound better, richer, ... etc ? 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Hopefully VE-Pro 7 will be updated to support VST3 Plugins. I don't see why they haven't done this already, but the sooner they do it, the better. VST3 is becoming a standard format more and more these days. 

Originally Posted by: MS

Alt-Tab?

Hi,

Yes, I'm aware I can use Alt-Tab, but I think it will be cool if I could just click on a button, or area of the VE-Pro 7 GUI that will take me back to my DAW.  Just like the raise feature makes it easy to go from DAW ---> VE-Pro 7 Instrument. It would be nice if there was a way to go in the other direction.

From VE-Pro 7 ---> DAW. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Hi,

I just started using VE-Pro 7 (64-bit Server). as a local host on my PC for Virtual Instruments. All working great. 

My DAW is Studio One Pro 5 (Windows 10 Pro). 

Question:  When I'm in VE-Pro 7 , and GUI is maximized, I want to switch back to Studio One Pro 5, is there a way to do this from within the VE-Pro 7 GUI ? 

For now, I have to click on the Studio One Pro 5 icon in the Windows 10 Doc area to switch. 

I'm curious if there is a way to do it, but I'm missing how to do so. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Originally Posted by: Philippe BAYLAC

Hi Musiksculp,

here is a full VSL Dimension Strings version, mixed in Mirpro / Synchron Stage

Century 21 Full VSL version

Best

Philippe

Thanks.  This also sounds good, and could have done the job. 

Originally Posted by: Philippe BAYLAC

Hi Musiksclulp,

No, no sordino strings here, but the VSL strings were layered with some Spitfire strings, to try to come as close as possible from the original sound (60's ...)

Best

Philippe

Hi Philippe,

I see. For some reason, my first impression was that they sounded a bit like they are sordino strings, or a mix of sordino with non-sordino strings when I heard this piece, maybe its the layering effect. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Sounds Great ! 

Are you using Sordino Strings here ?  It reminded me of Bernard Hermann's film music.

Hi,

I think It would be very helpful if there were some video tutorials showing how to use the various VSL String Articulations with each other to create realistic string phrases for various musical passages.  i.e. When to use this artic. after this articulation for this effect, ...etc. basically tips, and tricks of how to use the various articulations, and related ways to manage the Matrices, Keyswitches, Slots, ..etc. This is quite a complex, and deep topic, so it would need a lot of well produced videos, showing the details, and not rushing through the material, but rather explaining it in detail, even if that means a whole series of videos would be needed for this topic. i.e.Videos Volume 1, Volume 2, ...etc. 

I checked for this type of video/s on Youtube, but I didn't find any that focus on this very important detail. I would even buy this type of video tutorials if they existed. 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

@Thorsteinn,

Thanks for the video links. They are very useful tips. 

Hi,

After watching this video of VSL's Solo Cello 2, performed by Guy Bacos, I have a couple of questions about it.

1. I notice there are three Matrices in the Matrix List. Which are controlled via Key-switches. (Notes C0, C#0, D0)

If you watch the video you will notice that quite a few times a single cell containing the Performance Legato Non Vibrato [PLnv] patch pops up in the performance , but the Matrix List Keyswitch does not change ,i.e. I think each of the Matrices in the Matrix List are made up of multiple cells in one dimension. So.. the Question is :

Q1. How does he switch to this single cell matrix containing [PLnv] while not switching the Matrix in the Matrix List  ?

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2. This performance requires many and frequent key-switches between the various long, and medium articulations.

i.e. I counted 9 articulation changes in the first 0:20 Seconds of the music. and this pace of key-switch action keeps going strong until the end of the piece.  I would refer to this as Ultra-Hyper Articulation-Switching (UHAS).  

Q2. Is there a good method/strategy to decide what articulation a note needs to be assigned, or is it all a matter of having a very good grasp of how these articulations sound, and then simply assigning one that's closest to what you want to hear ? especially given the vast number of articulations VSL Libraries offer.

I'm guessing that performing the Key-Switches in real time while playing the notes in real time would be almost impossible, so this would most likely be done in a post recording phase, by trying/experimenting with the various articulation assignments, and how they sound on a note by note scenario. Which is quite a bit of complicated articulation assigning jigsaw puzzle. Or is there a better way to decipher and simplify this process ? any ideas on this would be helpful.

I also noticed that there isn't any Staccatto, Spiccato articulations used in this piece, which is most likely due to the style of the music.

Any feedback on this would be helpful.

Thanks,

Muziksculp

Here is the video :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MFQRCBNjY4&feature=emb_logo

Originally Posted by: Philippe BAYLAC

Thanks Musiksculp.

The version i prefer is ... the third one  mixed in Mirpro . To obtain this result, the mics must be very close to the instruments ..

BWV 1055 MIRPRO Version

I used the Synchron Stage Venue. I think this full VSL version, mixrd in SS will pleased Paul Kopf 

Best

Philippe

Sounds Wonderful.  Very transparent acoustics. 

Haha.. Now you made me think about buying the Vienna MIR Synchron Stage (Room Pack 6) , So I can Synchronize my Vienna Instrument Pro based libraries  

Hi,

I had the same problem a little while ago, my Dim-Strings II, and Historic Winds I libraries were not visible in VI-Pro 2's Browser. Although they were installed properly on the SSD. 

I don't recall how I fixed this issue. Here are some suggestions,  try do a Re-Scan of the drive from the Directory Manager.  You can also try to do a search in the Browser for the word 'Sordino' and see if they show up.

Cheers,

Muziksculp 

Hi Philippe,

Very nicely done. I always enjoy listening to your Baroque VSL works. 

Which version do you like better, the one with or without the solo strings ? 

Also curious if you used MIR in this demo ? 

Thanks,

Muziksculp 

Is there any type of Auto-Divisi functionality in the Synchron Player when using the Synchronized Dimension Strings ?   What's the best way to use the Synchronized Dim-Strings if no Auto-Divisi functionality is available ?