Originally Posted by: Cochise Studio

Please guys, we need support for VST3 plug-ins. That's insane in 2019.

double ditto!!

Thank you so much for your informative advice and I do very much the same: testing out textures/sounds in standalone, with both my laptop and DAW PC, then following through later. I have watched almost all the videos I can find on Smart Orchestra and I think it's a must, but, alas, not Sphere, as I have so much of that Hybrid stuff already. Cheers again and also awaiting update as patiently as can be :)

I joined this particular forum subject because I was looking to purchase Smart Orchestra, whilst it is on offer to me, but I have not used Synchron Player before, only Vienna Instruments with VEP Pro 6 & MIR Pro, so like littleweirdo, am concerned about stability within VEP and Cubase Pro 9+?

I have recently used Vienna Instruments successfully and would like to know whether Synchron is as 'good' within VEP?

Originally Posted by: beatpete

Agreed, PLEASE implement VST3 plugins within VEP!

Not to mension multiple Waves waveshells...

ditto

Originally Posted by: jmcecil

HI all,  I opened a support request already, but thought I'd check here too.  Has anyone successfully used Patchworks 2.xx in VEP 6?  It freezes VEP as soon as I try to load an instrument.  Just curious if anyone else has had any luck.

I have previously brought this to Blue Cat's attention, back with version 1, on KVR forum, they were 'working on it'... Anyway DDMF Metaplugin works, so you may add an Arp before a VSTi, sometimes loading a VST3 leads to a crash, but you're not going to benefit from using them In VEP anyway.

Hi Just tried Play5.0a build 19th September 2016 and all seems okay, here: ran Cream sequencer through it and loads of *.ewi. [This may help re: Repetitions etc., Introduction. An extended video introduction to the sounds and features of this incredible new virtual instrument. video from http://www.soundsonline.com/Hollywood-Strings]

Originally Posted by: nektarios

Sorry, for some reason it works now.  All good now! Thanks!

Glad to hear this, as I was just about to try and emulate your question, P

yes, just place WaveShell-VST 9.6_x64.dll & WaveShell-VST 9.7_x64.dll onto shell2vst64.exe and a folder called 'Waves' will be produced: inside will be the plugins you have purchased and you may move these to where ever is most convenient. Hope this clarifies. Shell2, 32bit and 64bit is available at http://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/shell2vst.zip 

I have VEP 5 and am very pleased to be given 3 licences, but I also possess MIR and some Libraries and would like those to have another licence/s. It is annoying that I use my main PC to setup VEP, including the wonderfully easily integrated MIR and then transfer these frames to 'slave', which does not have MIR. I love having as many options as possible to less interfere with my workflow, but I do not feel that I should purchase another MIR! :( | :) development costs point taken.

Since the Cubase 8.5.10 update I have been using AG2 (previously VEP was set Inactive) on Medium at 256 samples, 32bit float at 44.1, but after around 10 fully loaded vsti and EQs etc., it is beginning to look like a bit of a load for Cubase= around 70%, although the same vsti, without VEP, has to start being Rendered, after this point, especially if MIR is on in Cubase and not integrated into VEP.

I may try a Low AG2 setting on a larger project: it is no good me making things happen (test project); I prefer a real scenario approach and see how far this can go. Will post outcome, if there is any difference in AG2 being Off, Low or Medium. Also, it is possible to work with 512 samples most of the time, in fact some other programs seem to prefer this, so that would be less strain on Cubase; this is sometimes preferable in Mixdown. 

NB: I have a slave (Lenovo M92 i5 16GB) with VEP/samplers... loaded, which I have had to use for a super large project: Cubase meter= around 20-30%. 

see: http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=226&t=70905&sid=de71e1b0a0c081b719fa454a2a6039d8&start=25

& https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=226&t=70905&sid=2796aed16c9e002d705d3d6ba94261dd

Been working on large project with VEP(2xBuffers) with AG2 Enabled, which was set to Highest and using 256 samples: worked great until I reached a certain number of tracks (12+) and either or both programs began to freeze or dysfunction in very irritating ways, plus the muting seemed to give me enough time to write several emails..., between track selection. Spent an hour or two fiddling and trying to cope, whilst adding various components to my composition, but alas, all to no avail. So turned VEP's AG2 Off (still on Highest for other VST), within C8.5 and CPU freezing, Disk Overload etc., deceased. I may use 128 samples, but still have a few useful 32bit VST, which, even though JBridged, prefer 256 samples. Hope this helps the debate. p

Hi shomynik, I have had this question at the back of my mind, since my purchase, but the integrated MIR and the fact that VEP uses less CPU within C8, with same plugins setup, still sells it to me. Yes I wish the .vst3 problem will be sorted soon and I could do with two MIR licenses (to have slave and/or same PC use), like I have three for VEP. There is the lack of project carry over eg: if I save a *.frame on my PC, then try to open it on my slave, the same project does not appear. There are a few other implementations, which may be solved, that are worth considering and waiting for. 

Maybe this is fixed refer: https://www.vsl.co.at/community/posts/t38487p5-VE-Pro-audio-muting-when-switching-tracks-in-Cubase-Pro-8?=#post242384  Initial tests show that it works okay, but need to run realtime environment, to be sure.

Hey cheers for update inf; shall be trying later and if this works it will be great :)

I need to get these opportunities posted/alerted to me, via email, as I do not go on the Forum more than once a week and missed this.

It is certainly a long wait and Cubase 9 probably be about soon!

nar, you are not alone and, although I was upbeat to start, it has recently become a bl..dy nuisance! Please give us access to our *.vst3 plugins 

May have looked promising, but is crashing Cubase Pro 8 and VEP, seperately and won't let Cubase load, after loading it to VEP! Thought it might be new Windows 7 updates, but took out Agent and no more crashes, also tried free CM version and same occurs with that, plus they both take ages to load. I have passed this on to Nyrv, so may be an update will appear soon... PS: New version of Agent doesn't crash, but will not take VST3 plugins in non VST3 environment: VEP!

Just testing NYRV Systems Agent, it takes VST3, Instruments and Effects, okay: looks like it could be of use!?

Wow, I have not seen that card before, as I use Firewire units, now: it looks like a good quality card and being PCI, this should be able to be really low latency, but where do you alter the buffer size? The software looks like it's for games and stuff, so maybe something comes on, with your project, which interferes with your song.... Long time ago (90s) I used to get an odd latency type effect with a PCI card, but once ASIO was introduced: all became well. I hope this is resolved for you soon.

Just had a quick look at MOTU site and looks like you have a few controls which may have some bearing on this: SMPTE time code formats & MIDI timing resolution (PPQ)=2 trillion PPQ & Pitch automation, this could be too obvious, but something may be being triggered that has been overlooked! I could not see if you can alter buffers from within Performer? pacman

The only idea I have is the mismatching of your latency buffer settings, this is from page 7-8 in the manual: "IMPORTANT: MIR Pro will not work with system latencies lower than 64 samples." & "*) IMPORTANT – as mentioned before: There are actually two numbers to take into account here, namely the host buffer size and MIR latency setting. The latter should either be 0 (which is usually ideal) or a number greater than the host buffer size. MIR latency below or equal to the host buffer size will give sub-par results." Hope this helps, pacman

The latest version of Adobe Audition doesn't like some of my VST3 plugins and therefore, I have to use the VST2 versions: I wish this could all be resolved...

Absolutely, as many times as you like, so far, anyways and StudioRack ('save as' is the same way/s) doesn't seem to use any extra resources.

Hi there, I have successfully opened Waves, in VEP, through the free StudioRackV9r10(Waveshell 9.7), which loads up to 6 plugins at once and/or BlueCatAudio PatchWorkv1.7.1 and the shell2vst way works okay, also. Since my recent purchase of VEP, I have had to reinstall a lot of plugins, as so many of them were only installed as .vst3, so extra work anyways. pacman

Are you not referring to Character Presets (such as ‘Air’, ‘Silk’, ‘Bite’, ‘Distant’, ‘Warm’) for quick timbral changes, available for most Vienna Instruments. If you add too many of the same, this will certainly colour your sound in differing ways. 

Also: Room EQ and Master EQ. Adjustable Room Tone (natural noise floor). MIRacle plug-in – Direct access to a tailor-made algorithmic global reverb for “sweetening”. Tailor-made Character Presets?

I had a similar question, when researching my purchase; hope this helps.