Oh very cool. I always kinda knew I could do things like that with VIP but never wanted to devote the time to find out how. It looks a lot easier than I thought! Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

Hi, I am interested in ensemble patches similar to libraries like OT Berlin Inspire, Red Room Palette, and Sonic Scores Amadeus. They provide full-range patches for the different families, with smooth blending throughout.

(Amadeus provides strings and brass but not woodwinds ensemble; I don't like Red Room's sound; and Berlin Inspire unfortunately has several samples with recording defects)

So I'm looking to see what's available in VSL-land. So far I haven't found what I'm looking for:

- I'm just not a fan of Smart Orchestra, the woodwinds in particular have overly noticeable transitions through the range

- Epic Orchestra has strings and woodwinds, but not a brass ensemble

- I haven't seen a Woodwinds or Bass ensemble patch anywhere else

So... does VSL have something with ensemble patches for the three main families?

(I'm also wondering if this is something I can construct myself with Vienna Instruments Pro)

I would like to set up smart orchestra patches for the various sections, for the full ranges they can go, without percussion. So basically take the "01 Smart Orchestra" patch, extend the section ranges, and remove percussion.

I have found that I can select an instrument, type, and articulation. Then I can remove the percussion section, and extend the key range until it stops.

However, I don't know how to affect multiple combinations at once. I currently have to do that process once for every combination of type + articulation. So about 21 times. Is there a way to do this faster somehow?

You're not completely deaf :)  I believe that you're expecting the selection between Strings / Woodwinds / Brass to select between the sections. As far as I know, that selection thing is for configuring those different sections – which I know means key range, and I'm not sure what, if anything else, can be configured.

That particular patch uses the mixer to adjust the balance between the sections. So, bring "Mix Strings Volume" and "Mix Woodwinds Volume" to 0, and you will hear the unmistakable sound of Brass drenched in reverb.

Personally I find Synchron player very confusing, and haven't had time or motivation to dig in and learn it. So I run into similar problems as you, quite frequently. Hopefully this helps a bit.

I have Smart Orchestra and haven't been able to use it because I have a fusion drive, and get frequent dropouts. I'm not sure if there's a way to configure it so that it is usable. I too didn't see the SSD requirement until after purchasing.

So, I am avoiding all things Synchron until I can figure out how to get Smart Orchestra to work reliably with a fusion drive.

bump :)

I imported the Cubase expression maps for Smart Orchestra into Dorico. When I set up an instance of Synchron w/ SO, and configure the track to play to it w/ the expression map, it doesn't play anything. I can play my MIDI keyboard and it produces a sound, but actually playing back what's notated in Dorico doesn't do anything. I don't seem to see it sending any keyswitches or notes. If I reset the expression map to Default it plays, though obviously it doesn't change sounds or anything like that.

Has anyone gotten the Smart Orchestra expression maps to work with Dorico?

Yeah, to be frank, the idea that VSL is "moving away from VIP" (which I share) is pure speculation. Who knows what they'll do.

I understand what they're doing with Synchron – providing a platform that is more "mix ready" than VIP is, with the interface to make quick mixing tweaks.

Personally I find VIP + MIR Pro to be absolutely awesome, and I don't care about Synchron.

So who knows? Maybe VSL will get to a point where Synchron is cruising, and they want to give VIP some more love.

It just seems to like right now the focus is on Synchron, and I'm not holding my breath for VIP updates.

from p24 of VEP 6 Manual English v3.1:

"Vienna Ensemble Pro Server will generally perform best when running as few instances as possible."

I would suggest reading the section A Note on Multiprocessing on p24. It talks about how you should configure # of threads if you want to use more than 1 instance.

Anyway, my reading of it is your default should be 1 instance, and if you want more instances to support your workflow then go for it. But multiple instances is purely for workflow, not for performance gains.

Hi, when VPP was first released I remember reading that it was a one-time use thing. If you report your key as lost / stolen / damaged, then you get a 50-hour emergency license, the original key is deactivated, and your protection plan is used up.

I was under the impression that those licenses would never be eligible for protection again. That is, you'd get new licenses, but you wouldn't be able to buy VPP for them again. If you lost a second key, those licenses would be gone forever (and you could replace them for 50% off, per VSL's original policy).

However today I see on the Protection Plan page a bullet point (#6) that I think wasn't there originally:

5. Your lost/broken/stolen ViennaKey will be disabled and cannot be used anymore. Your Vienna Protection Plan is now used up.

6. Buy a new Vienna Protection Plan for new coverage.

My reading of that is that if I lose a protected key and receive replacement licenses, I can buy a new protection plan for the new key / licenses. If I were to lose this new key, it would be protected and I could use the protection plan to receive replacement licenses (and buy a new protection plan).

Is that correct?

Also, will VSL notify me when the 2-year protection period is about to end, so I can renew it?

(Obviously my goal is to never lose my key in the first place. When I thought VPP was a once-in-a-lifetime use thing, I still needed a fallback insurance in case I ever had to use VPP. But if it's a one-claim-per-purchase thing, it becomes a lot more comfortable to buy in to)

Originally Posted by: Suntower

When I load VEP, I have the 'Preserve' box checked.

I then load a VEP preset which loads values for each instrument.

This will ensure that VEP keeps the samples loaded in memory – and it will not read settings from your DAW unless you tell it to.

Yep. You have the choice to keep the VEP settings, or load in the settings from the DAW.

When you load your DAW project which has VEP, you'll see the "Load plugin data" button (down arrow) light up. Press it and choose "Load incoming project data", and VEP will read the settings from the DAW project. If you don't want the settings from the DAW, you can choose "Discard plugin data."

This is explained in the section "PRESERVE, DECOUPLE, CONNECT AND DISCONNECT – AN OVERVIEW" of VEP manual, p57 of English version 3.1.

I'm interested in either the Imperial or the Steinway, I'm curious which one will work better with MIR Pro? afaik Imperial works like Vienna Instruments, whereas the Steinway is a Synchron instrument. So MIR would have an instrument profile for the Imperial, but not the Steinway, is that correct?

Falcon 1.6.5 was just released, and one of the release notes is "fix issue in Vienna Ensemble Pro", hopefully it works for you.

I'm new to VEP. When I add a VST instance of Kontakt 5, VEP reports 0 PDC. If I add Kontakt directly to my DAW, it has a 255 sample PDC. Why is it different in VEP?

As a contast, I've loaded u-he Zebra into VEP and it reports 16 samples PDC, which is the same as if I add it directly in the DAW.

I use VEP on a single machine, so I'm not in your situation.

But, I get crackles whenever my WIFI is on. Disabling WIFI clears it up for me.

Okay, false alarm! (I think...)

It looks like my Sib Score -> Sib playback config -> VEP setup got out of sync. I carefully went through and lined everything up and it seems to be working fine now (including VSTs hosted in VEP!)

I haven't done much with Sibelius 7.1 and VSL other than some small experiments, which were promising. However today, it's not working so well. I'm not sure what changed – it's been a while since I did my first experiments. What I can say has changed is that I'm now using VIP and VEP with the SE+ bundle – before I was using the standard VI and VE.

Anyway, I have the simple passage attached below. Two things are happening:

1. the "ord." marking doesn't do anything – and I don't think I should even need it, in the past I'm pretty sure Sibelius automatically switched from staccato to sustain without any markings. Also, exporting MIDI shows that it doesn't include a keyswitch to return to sustain.

2. the final beat of measure 2 triggers a legato slur going in to the first beat of measure 3. They should be independent of one another.

I think I have everything set up correctly. I've installed the Sibelius soundsets, imported the house style, and have the VEP soundset as VE Special Edition Plus. I don't understand why the markings aren't working correctly.

Originally Posted by: Dietz

Comparing Venues with completely different geometries is difficult without sacrificing either sound, usability, and/or predictability. :-)

Makes sense. So am I able to save "snapshots" to switch between (I would be using VEP, which I also don't have currently). The idea being that I can load venue 1 and make my mix. Then load venue 2 and make my other mix. Then switch between them to compare.