Same here, hang at Loading Plug-Ins, Vienna Ensemble Pro

VEP 6.0.15563, OSX 10.11.6, Ptools 12.6.1, HDX2

This system will open Ptools 12.6.1, but then hang attempting to add a stereo VEP on instrument or aux.

VEP 6.0.15563, OSX 10.11.6, Ptools 12.6.1, RME MADI-FX

will try revert back to VEP 6.0.15500....

I thought that automation parameter names etc for plugins are passed thru to the Host. Or will it always be named generic?

VEP 6

Logic 10.2.4

I'm running K 5.5.0.409, VEP 5.4.13741, OSX 10.8.5, Logic 9.1.8 and 10.0.7, Protools 10.3.9. Only problem occurs after some idle time. Then I just quit and reopen everything.

Hi, Just thought I would try Kontakt 5.4.3 to see if crackles are gone and because of newer library requirements. The crackles are there. Was just in K 5.3.0 and no crackles. Noticing it on LASS v1.5 (I think)

OSX 10.8.5

VEP 5.4.13715

Kontakt 5.3.0 no audio glitches

Kontakt 5.4.3 audio glitches

Model Identifier: MacPro5,1

Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon

Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz

Number of Processors: 2

Memory: 48 GB

Well I reported to NI several weeks ago and no response, no updates...

I sent a report, but only sent the VEP project of the LASS instance with all the porta scripting that was displaying the problem. May not happen on it's own, I forgot to check.

I run VEP 64 bit 4 threads, kontakt mem server off and mutliprocessor off. But my problem may be that there are 9 instances in VEP server. Finally shut off my gigas and each one of those is a VEP instance. That is probably not recommended, but it was working in K4.2.4 VEP4.1.11889 with only 2 threads per instance with those versions. There is a bug in VEP4 that it does not search for missing samples in kontakt. Upgrading was the only solution for that. Both NI and VSL didn't want to look at the older versions.

Protools HDX2, OSX 10.7.5, PT10.3.6

As far as I can recall, thing were fine with K4.2.4 VEP 4.1.11889

Spoke too soon. Still having issues. Stuff that worked fine in K4.2.4 and VEP4.1.11889 doesn't work in K5 and VEP5. Not sure who the culprit is.

Playing with thread count now. What fun....

So far having good results from K 5.3.0 and VEP 5.3.13240

OSX 10.7.5, PT10.3.6, OSX 10.8.5, L9.1.8

Reverting VEP did not help. Will revert Kontakt 5.3.1 to 5.3.0 now.

Hmm, I thought it might be VEP 5.3.13240 which was a recent update. I'll try reverting to VEP 5.3.13151.

Sorry I'm still using VEP 4.1.11889...

I am noticing that often a vframe with kontakt 4.24 in it will load with no instrument mapping if the samples are not in the same location when the vframe was saved . No samples mapped to keys.

Is this perhaps user error?

Currently my only workaround is to make sure the kontakt multi or instrument is saved separately.

OSX 10.8.5 Logic 9.1.8, Ptools 10.3.5, DP 7.24, OSX 10.6.8 Ptools 8.0.5, Ptools 8.0.3, DP 7.24, Kontakt 4.24

I use VEP on a Quad G5 PPC using 10.5.8, 8.5G RAM, Ptools 8.0.1, and have 2 firewire devices, but no ethernet Icon. Gigabit ethernet on the mac is pretty fast but not sure how much bandwidth is used for Icon. Check Menumeters or look at network activity using Activity Monitor.

I have been using a 5 gig Kontakt 4.11 setup in VEP on a i7 macintel laptop slaved. OSX 10.6.4

My situation hasn't changed. I have some external midi working, some not.

I have tried VEP as RTAS, with VEP server local and remote. Remote does have latency, and seems like it must have VEP buffer of 1. I have protools set to 1024. Local VEP server and RTAS the best I can get is VEP buffer 1 and protools 1024 (lower works but eventually introduces artifacts.)

For MIDI in Logic, I currently have the global set to -60ms for the slowest "sounding" of the external midi which is VEP right now.  That means I have to add positive delay to the not so latent MIDI, like Giga's. Ulitmately I would like to leave the global sync at 0 and use track based offsets. But, negative delay in ms on tracks does not work over here, L9.1, OSX 10.5.8, DAE 8.0.1cs1, DTDM, maybe it isn't intended to. Negative tick offset does work, but -99 is not enough to compensate for the VEP latency I have, dependent of course on tempo. Ideally the midi offset is best compensated with fixed (delay in ms) instead of ticks.

I know of an install with a VEP PC slave that is ADAT into protools and has no "out of the ordinary" latency issues.

Hi, I thought I sent an email to you directly Paul, but guess I haven't.

I still cannot always get external midi working, both when there is a slave computer and locally with MidiOverLan local pipe.

Not working:

VEP 32 server, Logic 9.1, MOL CP local pipe. Local pipe works with Kontakt 4.05 standalone, just not with VEP. MacPro 10.5.8

VEP 32 server, Protools 8.0.1cs1, MacPro 10.5.8 (Note: I do have one computer exactly like this accepting external MIDI in VEP)

Working:

VEP 32 server, Protools 8.0.1cs1, MacPro 10.5.8 (Note: I do have one computer exactly like this NOT accepting external MIDI in VEP)

VEP 32 server, Protools 8.0.1cs1, G5 Quad 2.5 10.5.8

BTW I think the instance was Multi Out, not just stereo. Validating again did not fix it. Logic 9.1 says:

Logic Pro: Plug-in "Vienna Ense" of type 0 - 32 not available!

Gets me thinking, maybe I messed with the audio outs. But changing audio to 32 made no difference. I did cycle the server and Logic. And tried validating again.

Here is au re-val:

validating Audio Unit Vienna Ensemble Pro by VSL:

  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
         AU Validation Tool
         Version: 1.2.1b3
          Copyright 2003-2007, Apple, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

         Specify -h (-help) for command options
  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'vsep' - 'VSLS'
--------------------------------------------------
[001:226] MagicCam 0: Current process: auvaltool, Flash is loaded: no
[001:226] Error(magiccammac.cc:276): MagicCam 0: MagicCamOpen: Not an allowed process!
[000:000] MagicCam 1: Current process: auvaltool, Flash is loaded: no
[000:000] Error(magiccammac.cc:276): MagicCam 1: MagicCamOpen: Not an allowed process!
Manufacturer String: VSL
AudioUnit name: Vienna Ensemble Pro
Component Info: Vienna Ensemble Pro
Component Version: 4.0.0 (0x40000)
Component's Bundle Version: 0.0.0

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit:         222.753 ms
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit:         3.994  ms
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization:        0.030 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:0

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:4
    Bus Name: Out 1/2
    Format Bus 0: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
    Bus Name: Out 3/4
    Format Bus 1: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
    Bus Name: Out 5/6
    Format Bus 2: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
    Bus Name: Out 7/8
    Format Bus 3: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Sample Rate
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Stream Format
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Maximum Frames Per Slice
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Last Render Error
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Instrument Count
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY Supported Number of Channels
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY Tail Time
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY Host Callbacks
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Carbon View Components Available: 1
  auvw vsep VSLS  -  VSL: Vienna Ensemble Pro View
    PASS

Cocoa Views Available: 1
  ViennaEnsembleProCocoaViewFactory
    PASS

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
    PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

# # # 384 Global Scope Parameters:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
      [0, 2] 

No Input, Output Chans:
0-1   0-2   0-4   0-5   0-6   0-7   0-8
      X                                  

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
RENDER TESTS:
Output Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
Render Test at 512 frames
Slicing Render Test at 64 frames
  PASS

Render Test at 64 frames, sample rate: 22050 Hz
Render Test at 137 frames, sample rate: 96000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 44100 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 192000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 11025 Hz
Render Test at 512 frames, sample rate: 48000 Hz
  PASS

Checking parameter setting
Using AudioUnitSetParameter
Using AudioUnitScheduleParameter
  PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION SUCCEEDED.
--------------------------------------------------

validation result: successfully validated

updating properties of AU Vienna Ensemble Pro by VSL...done.

Oh and now I see I am blind, I missed the uninstaller Vienna Ensemble Pro Uninstaller.app

I have a Logic 9 song I've been working on. VEP fails to load on one channel now. The failing instance that worked several days ago in a different file doesn't even load. This makes me think something has happened to VEP.  How do I uninstall VEP?

Failed to load Audio Unit "Vienna Ense", please contact the manufacturer for an updated version or further assistance.

* CONFIGURATION
Model Name:    Mac Pro
Model Identifier:    MacPro4,1
Processor Name:    Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:    2.26 GHz
RAM: 12G
Audio: HD2 Accel PCIe, 1 x 192, DAE 8.0.1cs1, Kontakt 4.05, VEP 4.0.4881, LogicPro 9.1
[OS: 10.5.8]

I get limited results on a Quad 2.5 G5 OSX 10.5.8 running Protools 8.0.1cs1.

Have to use Kontakt3.5 and use memory manager. Keep trying to push the envelope, but I think it's asking too much. (My old Giga 3.21 machine can do more with less, not sure why, well voices not memory ;) )

Is it poossible to have VEP 4.0.4881 connect audio on ethernet port2 when cabling computer to computer and using Mac OSX10.5.8?

Well not really solved. External MIDI is very unpredictable to get working, atleast for me it is. Paul

how do you post screenshots? Paul

Try enabling the kontakt memory server in their prefs.

I have VEP startup problems occasionally.  It will appear to open but doesn't until I choose quit from the File menu, then it will actually start up and open the server instance interface. Happens on both Intel and PPC OSX 10.5.8, 32 bit VEP 4.0.4881.

I have it working on  Quad 2.5, DAE 8.0.1cs1. Does not work as well as I would like though. Tried using more of the RAM I have but it just does not like that. Currently only using one instance of Kontakt 4.05 with 300MB samples. Took me ages to get external MIDI working on that machine ( I want to trigger from my Logic machine and avoid making midi tracks in protools and record enabling them just to get midi into VEP).  Very unpredictable getting that to work.  I really don't know how I get external MIDI to work when it does.

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name:    Power Mac G5 Quad
  Model Identifier:    PowerMac11,2
  Processor Name:    PowerPC G5 (1.1)
  Processor Speed:    2.5 GHz
  Number Of CPUs:    4
  L2 Cache (per CPU):    1 MB
  Memory:    8.5 GB
  Bus Speed:    1.25 GHz
  Boot ROM Version:    5.2.7f1

Imagine this scenario:

Machine one: OSX 10.5.8, VEP server 4.0.4881 32bit, several kontakt 4.05 channels, external MOL input 85 enabled in VEP prefs and assigned to kontakt instance input, MOL 3.3.3.440

Protools 8.0.1cs1, one stereo aux input with VEP RTAS connected to the local server

Machine two: OSX 10.5.8, Logic 9.1, MOL 3.3.3.440

External midi track, assigned to MOL output 85

MIDI from Logic machine not getting to VEP server on Protools machine.