+++1 William!

Don't be shy – make it dry. This is offers maximum flexibility for the placement in context!

I am waiting for Apple Silicon M1 support, too.

Although VSL announced sth. long time ago, nothing has happened until today!

Still, I have to restart Studio One in Rosetta mode to work with the VST version of the Synchron Player. In native mode there is only the AU Player available.
The same with Dorico. Not a single VSL plugin or player shows up when you run it native, forget about the templates... !?!

Frankly, that's a big shame! The Player environment is CORE.
I can understand that the transition from elicenser to ilok was a big thing. But as it seems, there are enough resources to come up with new libraries every month – hmmm?!?

VSL must also take care for the existing customers, who already spent a lot of money for their products.
Most of the big brands, also the smaller 3rd party plugin developers have updated to M1 support – why not VSL.

This situation is ridiculous, sorry VSL team!

For me, 95€ were a no brainer. I own all the Synchron libraries and my template is huge. BUT now I also have a light weight RAM solution with less than 2GB (!) for the whole Prime Edition, all articulations activated and my CPU is happy, too. ;-)
This is perfect for sketching. Later on, I add the "big boys" for refinement – it's all about workflow.

Cheers

Yep, installed it, too. Right now, I'm adding a new track folder for sketching in my template.

Congratulations, well done! +1

Oh, this is nice sounding, thank you very much. Very usable Pad Sound – went right into my template.
Greeting to the whole VSL Team.

Cheers, Gunter

M1 with Big Sur

I also did the downgrade to v 1.0.118. Vepro7 is already installed, but now I have also another version under the install tab. I'm using "download only" and it turns out, it is an .exe file of windows. Ok, I will never use this one... ;-)

Despite of that, everything is working fine. All Synchron and Synchronized Libs behave like they should. To me, there is no difference to what was before – so I'm happy! 

Only for the old Vienna Suite and MIR PRO 24 (standalone), I have to use my old dongle side by side with the new iLok3 key, but there are no issues or conflicts.

Again, thanks a lot to the whole VSL team!

Yep, I made the transition, too.

1. I made a complete backup of my system with all libraries (elic) to be safe.

2. I installed only the new Vienna Assistant.

3. All downloads were made to an external SSD w/o installation (download only).

4. While waiting for the iLok3 dongle to arrive and the all the downloads were finished, I was working with the former elic enviroment.

5. After registration of the new ilok3 dongle, all lics were stored on it (2 min. at all).

6. Within the VA, I chose "install from drive" for all libraries and deleted the former elic stuff.

Now everything is fine! :-)

There is only one point I want to mention:

The new Synchron Player 1.2.105 is still not "native". I'm working on macos Big Sur M1 and Studio One. I hoped it would come with that transition, too. Now, 1 1/2 years after the introduction of the M1 chips, I still have to run my DAW in Rosetta mode – only because of the Synchron Player. All other 3rd party plugins like Fabfilter, Liquid Sonics, HOFA, NI Kontakt most Toontrack stuff, Valhalla and many more... all are native, now.

For me this is CORE! I don't want to see popping up 5 or 10 new libraries or whatever before the Synchron Player finally becomes native M1. I think, there are many M1 users out there, still waiting.

Nevertheless, I'm very satisfied with that smooth transition – well done VSL!!!

Cheers, Gunter

Update, IT works!

In Studio One, I created a new track with the EliteStrings and 12 articulations, I'm using all the time. The "laggiest" ones are Long and Perf. Legato, but about the same delay.
I did it as described above and finally, I also adjusted the individual levels for each articulation. When switching, I have roughly the same level for all of them. Now I can stay in the grid and continue editing automation for expression, VEL.XF etc.

For shure, this can declutter the arrangement, seriously – if you like switching! :)

May the sound be with you,
Gunter

Hi everyone,

Today, I was playing around with the envelope settings and the first control knob Dly. My question is: Does this simply move the samples, changing only the starting point of it, or something else, too?

I'm asking myself, if it could be used to keep different articulations in the grid. Until now, I'm using the two classic methods of (a) switching articulations and manually moving the midi events to compensate the individual delays, or (b), I create dedicated tracks for each articulation and set a negative track delay within the DAW.

• The first method works for me, if there isn't a lot to edit (only a few tracks), otherwise it can be a total mess.
• The second one, I prefer for larger arrangements, because I can stay in the grid and quantize the events. I can also move events from one track to the other and the starting point of the articulation is always perfect.

Ok, back to Dly of the envelope. If this control is just delaying the whole envelope of the sample, I could set the negative track delay for the Synchron Player to the "laggiest" articulation on my track and adjust all other articulations inside the player, as Dly is individual for all articulations and not global.

In case of "yes", what does mean the numerical value below the track? Is it measured in milliseconds (ms) or sth else? The manual does not specify that any further. As I already have worked out the individual delays of all articulations of my libraries, I could just copy those values.

Maybe someone can shed some light on this?

Cheers, Gunter

Thanks a lot, Ian!

I think, I must wait until VSL comes up with a solution.

Best, Gunter

Thank you very much for reply, Ian!

I‘m happy that it works for you. Don‘t mind me, you‘re shure it is the Suite Pro and not the „normal“ Suite? As written above, I tried to install on a virgin system – brand new. There are no games or nonsense like this, as I use both computers only for music composing, indeed very strange.

May I ask which languge you use for Mac OSX? Did you do sth. special for the installation process, that could help me?🙏

Best, Gunter

Yes Rosetta 2 is installed, for shure!

Best, Gunter

Hi everyone,

... more bad news:

This week came my new Apple Mac Mini with M1 chipset. It was brand-new out of the box and immediately, I installed VEPRO 7, VI Pro 2, the Synchron Player and a couple of VSL libraries.

Again, I tried to install the Vienna Suite Pro, but without success! It was the same scenario, I experienced with with my MacBook Pro (also M1).

After the license agreement, the installer jumps to customized installation by its own and informs you VST, VST3 and AU plugins will be installed with 0 kB. !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Please, have a look to the attachment.

It is not possible to install Vienna Suite Pro on Big Sur with a M1 chipset, absolutly NOT!  It would be a good idea to give this hint to your customers on the product page! Otherwise, they end up like me with a purchase, they can‘t use. (260€ is nearly MirPro24)

My advice to VSL: Buy a Mac with a M1 chipset and start testing, so you can prove it by yourself! 😎👍

Best, Gunter

Truth is plural – isn‘t it. 🙂

Just beautiful!🔆

Gunter

Originally Posted by: belkina

... especially since the VI libraries had a fast legato without this problem ...

Also the Synchron Strings I and other Synchronizeds don‘t have these artefacts.

Kind Regards, Gunter

Yes, exactly I did this way. Nevertheless the same effect – it does not work...🙁

So, for now I give up. I was really interested in the HybridReverb Pro from this Suite...

Best Regards, Gunter

Thanks for your reply!

But how can I make a fresh install of the software? I need to delete some files – but which ones and this was my question before.

I allready made an uninstall as written before and tried to reinstall. So please tell me, what is installed and where I have to look. As a software programmer you could easily do this.

Please, this would help me!

Gunter

Hi everyone,

10 days later until now, there is no reply from the VSL-Support. I have written 2 emails and asked for assistance.

I wanted to try again a fresh install of the Vienna Suite Pro, but using the uninstall option removes only the software, still leaving data of the plugins on the system.

In my second email to the VSL-Support, I asked to give me the information, which files or data was written to the computer and where to find them, so I can delete them manually.

I‘m still waiting for some kind of answer and for this reason I have to post again in this forum, sorry!

Kind Regards, Gunter

Thank you very much for the fast reply and I will do so.🙂

Kind regards, Gunter

Hi,

I installed Vienna Suite Pro in addition to the Vienna Suite on my MacBook Pro 13“ M1 and Big Sur.

All of the Vienna Suite plugins are working fine, but the Vienna Suite Pros won‘t, neither in VePro 7 nor as plugin in the Daw. In both cases I can load a plugin but the window is empty without content.

I installed twice times, but the problem still remains ... Any suggestions?

Cheers, Gunter

Hi Paul,

thank you so much for this unique feature, great work from VSL and Presonus! I started using it yesterday and this is really a big time saver. Well done!!!👍

Viele Grüße, Gunter

Thank you very much, Paul! 🙂

Hi, hope I‘m in the right category.

I want to know, how to uninstall Epic Orchestra 2.0 that came as part of VEPro 7.

The reason is, I have limited space on my notebook (500GB SSD) and I just purchased the SYNCHRON-ized SPECIAL EDITIONs Vol 1/2/3. This would give me 73GB back again.

Is there a clean uninstall, or do I have to delete some files and folders manually?

Best regards, Gunter