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1.High Sierra and Mavericks bridge 8/10/2020 8:21:37 AM

Hi there,

I've recently upgraded to High SIerra and haven't opened Vienna Ensemble pro 6 for a while i currently have version 6.0.16178.

I use it for bridging with my older MAC with older pro-tools hardware so i'm stuck with 10.9

If i upgrade to 6.5 can i still bridge with my old mac or do i have to use same version on both ? because 6.5 is not compatible with 10.9

Is there an intermediate version between 6.0 and 6.5 that is compatible with both High Sierra and Mavericks ? Where i can find older version downloads ? Would be possible to get the download for the latest working version for Mavericks ? Thanks

2.VEPro 6, PC and IMAC + shared storage NAS setup using 10 GB ethernet 1/13/2017 12:40:18 AM

windows shares in samba protocol (expecially when the source is NOT a windows machine, like most NAS) suffers from bad performances when moving/copying (a lot of) small files, so depending of the kind of your shared data you should take this into account.

best would be to use NFS share in windows instead of SMB, nfs doesn't have this issue.

3.Logic Pro X & VEP6 Latency Compensation Issues 12/15/2016 11:17:16 PM

Ok i've got what you mean, while there are no issues with delay compensation if you put the audio in directly on the channel and then return back on an instrument, there are lot of problems if you want to use VEP like an effect using a bus and aux like you did on your video, by the way i've found a workaround to keep the sync but there are some rules to keep in mind and require the use of Voxengo Latency delay (free)

Basically it's not possible to come out from a channel and keep the dry signal in sync with its return from Audio routings in VEP, no chances, at least i've found no ways when you include busses and auxes on the chain.

I've found a way to let it work, let's say i want to create an FX Rack instance in VEP using 4 fx.

My logic is with 1024 samples buffer, if you want to replicate this use the same buffer, you'll be able to lower it later.

1-Create a 5 channel mixer istance in VEP server like the image below

https://postimg.org/image/e5xqer2nh/

you are going to use 10 in and 10 out on the same istance, assigning like the image. The first channel will be the DRY return and the others are the 4 effect i want to use.

2 -create a multitimbral instrument in logic and create 5 auxes, i'll use aux 1-5 and bus1-5 where aux1 and bus1 will be the DRY return, see image.

Assign FXRACK Istance to The multitimbral and add 4 more channels, set 1 buffer, put the I/O only on the first channel instrument.

https://postimg.org/image/ppnop4wsp/

On the auxes Put I/O on every channel and assign VEP audio input sequentially 1-2, 3-4 5-6 and so on..

Now create a normal instrument channel, i'm going to use exs24 and a kick like you did in your video, now the tricky part. if you don't need to use fx from VEP just leave it as is so "stereo out" as output.

In order to use fx from VEP the out will become bus1, assign bus2-3-4-5 on busses in order to send audio to fx in vep. Basically also the dry signal will go throu VEP, this is the only way i've found for now to keep things as easier as possible.

Everything will play out of sync compared to logic's metronome, and here comes voxengo latency delay to help us. insert it on the kick channel and give it the value using this formula (VEP FXRACK instance delay + (logic buffer*2)), in this case will be 2048 + (1024*2) = 4096

https://postimg.org/image/f94496nz1/

everything will play pefectly now :)

If you insert latency inducing plug-in on any logic channel the sync will be kept, at least i've found no issues, you do not have to handle it. there's only 1 rule, THE DRY CHANNEL RETURN MUST BE FLAT, NO PLUG-INS, in my example is bus1 aux1 in1-2/out1-2 from VEP (named aux2 in screenshot sorry). Don't know why honestly but it looks that latency compensation is managed fine on the other multitimbral returns while it does not work if you insert stuff on the first one.

Instead if you insert latency plug-ins in VEP you have to check the latency in FXRACK and adjust voxengo using the formula above (latency + 2048 in my case)

The nice thing you can even route an instrument from vep to itself, basically you just have to add voxengo and out to bus1, like you just did on the exs24 channel, so it works for instruments coming from vep pro too.

This is a bit tricky but also once you get used i think it's not too bad, there are some cases where it could be useful, for example if you want to group some loops and use a compressor in VEP or an heavy fx chain that logic can't handle, but for the majority of the times i think i'll just avoid using bus and auxes in conjunction with VEP audio in, with no bus it works just fine and you can also manage dry/wet using vep mixer (make 2 bus with same input and same output and keep the first one flat).

EDIT: the (easier) alternative method i've just said is like the image below, audio in directly on the instrument, then return back to vep plug-in, same issue here the return channel must be kept flat, if you need to insert stuff just out to a bus and insert plgs on the aux. it looks it handles also latency added by fx inserted in VEP if you respect the flat rule above :)

https://postimg.org/image/ol1c1u7eb/

any improvement is welcome :)

4.Feature Request? Auto Map automations and keep naming? 12/14/2016 10:09:38 PM

Would be great if there will be an option to autoassign plug-in automations to vienna directly, it's nice to have all knobs active so we can play with everything while in record mode, it's very time consuming having to add them manually each time one by one..

only workaround is to "prepare" an istance with everything mapped and recall the template each time.

Also would be great to keep automation names over the main daw..

thanks

5.Do I need a Gigabit Switch? 12/14/2016 9:48:12 PM

each channel eats roughly 300kbyte/sec, around 2,4mbit, you need gigabit if you plan to use more than 30 channels.

splashtop is great for remote desktop, but uses also a bit of cpu, is probably the only software that gives you 60fps remote stream. much more smoother than vnc, and is free too if used inside lan

6.Logic Pro X & VEP6 Latency Compensation Issues 12/14/2016 9:22:22 PM

Originally Posted by: marnix Go to Quoted Post

Hi Ciprianis,

Before we attempt to reproduce this here in house, please confirm that you had indeed inserted activated, but bypassed I/O plug-ins in ALL involved Logic channels/tracks, as described on page 58 of the VE Pro User Manual!

Best, Marnix

no issues so far with the I/O trick, thanks for remembering me that we always have to RTFM!!

only issue is if you put a latency inducing plug-in after VEP PRO on the return channel, if you need to use anything else after the return is better to make a bus and put them on the aux, this way it will keep the sync, just lower the channel volume ad set the bus as "pre" if you don't need to mix it with the dry return.

7.Logic Pro X & VEP6 Latency Compensation Issues 12/12/2016 1:49:25 AM

ive just got the demo, i have the same problem with latency compensation when used as FX.

i'm planning to use mainly sequenced stuff (also as fx) inside vep so i want to address also latency on input.

during my first tests i had to add more than 3000 samples to the audio input in order to keep it in sync with everything else (in sync with a sequenced effect in VEP, and to the rest of the audio in logic, coming both from itself and from vep),

After 1 hour everything was working fine with just 2048 samples. after another hour and several tests including changing buffer size and adding heavy latency compensation plug-in in logic i had to remove that sample delay, so it looks the problem is gone overtime.

i still have to get a confirmation of this but it looks that if you add a big chain of latency compensation inducing plug-in (like 3 waves soundshifter in the same channel) it does something like "opening the gap" of latency compensation and then even if you remove or if you reset audio or enable low latency mode it works fine.

i'll be back with more tests tomorrow but if the fix is as simple as inserting and removing 3 plugs each time i open a project it's a joke, nothing to compare with all the headaches i had in the past trying to keep logic and pro-tools in sync for example, or logic and a bidule istance on pc..

Next track i make i'll use it extensively so i'll probably come with more details about it.

Very happy about VEP by the way, it works great and finally i can open as many reaktors i want without freezing and in addition logic is smooth like on an empty project, all the time spent working on VEP is recovered by the quicker logic response. Deal!

8.Ens. PRO with sequenced Instruments, 10.9 support, sample accuracy 12/10/2016 2:32:18 AM

Hi everyone,

i would like to purchase vienna ensemble pro mainly in order to use heavy sequenced intruments i made by myself with NI Reaktor, my plans are to use a powerful PC as Ensemble PRO host, going to my main DAW on Logic OSX on my outdated and not upgradable (because of expensive protools tdm cards) mac pro.

I would like to know how Vienna handles the song position, i mean if the informations sent by Logic Audiounit (in my case) plug-in are sent directly to vienna master, i don't want to use MTC or midi clock,  i would like to know if inserting the plug-in in logic involves not only the audio routing from vienna server to osx but also the song position informations from osx to vienna server.

basically i want sample accuracy, all my attempts using mtc or midiclock in the past was a complete mess, forcing me to invent my own sync methods adding a lot of extra work and slowing the workflow.

In other words i would like to know how the server syncs to the daw and if there is sample accuracy, is it sample accurate (+- a couple of samples)?? (obviously there's latency, i don't know if vienna automatically adds delay compensation to slave inserts on the daw, but this is not a problem, if the song position is perfect it's just a matter of adding a constant value, and it will not change overtime).

i will probably ask for a demo period, i don't own any vienna stuff yet but i've purchased an elicencer ages ago here and now i have some other stuff inside, i'll have to buy another elicencer too as far as i have understood as i need that on my pc and not on my mac....

Lastly i would like to know if you plan to support 10.9.x at least for the entire v6 lifespan and updates, recently apple and other big software houses already killed it after less than 3 years since release. As i can't upgrade would be a deal killer if i purchase something that i'll not be able to fully update to its latest stable and improved version.

thanks

9.Vienna Ensemble PRO into XP vmware on mac osx 2/25/2010 9:21:54 PM
opening it in osx is quite useless for my needs
i don't have a reason to use it in osx to be honest, i do not have any gigabyte sample patch to manage, i don't need to use any 64bit plug, why should i add another layer on my workflow?

my purpouse is to have the ability to use some windows exclusive plug-in like dblue glitch, splonky etc..

Virtual machines are running great with plug-ins,i'm currently using it with a combination of bidule + wormhole, i just wanted to try if there is a less tricky and less latency method, else i stay with my bidule+wormhole.

I fell just a bit upset i had to pay for a key that i will never use just to try out a demo, while bidule + wormhole are both free and they work in my enviroinment.

By the way if there is a workaround please let me know..
10.Vienna Ensemble PRO into XP vmware on mac osx 2/25/2010 6:25:36 PM
Hi , i'm evaluating vienna ensemble pro, i would like to use it as server in a windows xp sp2 virtualized with vmware fusion, and then use audiounit vsl inside logic in the same machine
The problem is when i try to open server in virtualized XP it start searching for licenses and it stay there all day, if i click the windows disappears but server is still open, i can see it in the process view..
Are there any known incompatibilities using the elicenser key over vmware fusion (osx)??
Any workaround ?
thanks
Edit: ok after a while it says it cannot find any license, i've tried in osx and it works, so it will not work on a virtualized machine because of syncrosoft key ?
11.midiquest XL compatibility 2/2/2010 4:41:26 AM
Hi does anyone has tryed vep with soundquest midi quest xl ?
i would like to know if it's usable under vep but i don't want to spend 42 euro just for evaluate it!!
thanks

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