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Last post Tue, Nov 22 2016 by andygrainger, 35 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 15:37
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5684

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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 16:00
by mh-7635
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Posts 192

You got a "mini lecture" because you inferred me and other posters where trolls. However, I'm sorry William, you did not need to reply, clearly you are under the mis-apprehension that I wish to engage in dialogue with you. But seeing as you did, your a fine one to talk about lecturing. Your immature reply suggesting that I was in char......oh christ , your really not worth it...... but I will stand up for opinions other than your own that I happen to agree with.

Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 16:29
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7868

Dear Forum Members, 

please don't lapse into the old trap of fighting verbally on the 'net. I can assure you that we all have more in common with each other than we dare to admit. ;-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 16:40
by mh-7635
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Posts 192

Fair enough Dietz...thanks for stepping in.

William....here's an olive branch........

Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 18:27
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5684

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Posted on Thu, Nov 10 2016 22:31
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7868

 <- rabid puppy.

;-D

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Nov 11 2016 11:04
by fiestared
Joined on Wed, Sep 01 2010, France, Posts 46

Originally Posted by: mh-7635 Go to Quoted Post

Hi Fiestared,

Thank you for your kind words. I'm so pleased you liked some of my music - compliments from fellow composers mean just that bit more.

Mike.

My pleasure...

Posted on Fri, Nov 11 2016 16:30
by Jan1981
Joined on Wed, Mar 16 2011, Posts 25

I just tried out the new cello and violin on audition. Am I getting that right, that the legato-patches are all looped?

Posted on Sat, Nov 12 2016 20:50
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5684

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Posted on Sat, Nov 12 2016 22:55
by MMKA
Joined on Tue, May 22 2012, Posts 465

 I look out for it to hear your composition with the new instruments!

Posted on Tue, Nov 15 2016 12:57
by thomamd
Joined on Sat, Jan 31 2009, Dundas, Ontario, Canada, Posts 207

Andi

   When can we expect the settings for Sibelius to be updated to reflect the new instruments? 

Mark

Posted on Tue, Nov 15 2016 15:09
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3517

Hello Mark!

Settings for Sibelius are already available.
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/MyDownloads/Notation_Related

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Nov 17 2016 06:30
by andygrainger
Joined on Thu, Jan 22 2004, Austin, Posts 104
I too like the new Violin and Cello...the Cello sounds especially nice. Has anybody else noticed that they are quieter than the original solo strings? I have to boost them by about 4dB to get them to the same level if I combine them in the same matrix as the original solo strings....I am surprised that the relative levels are not matched. Or am I missing something?...I don't think anybody else has commented on this aspect.

Thanks! Andy

Posted on Fri, Nov 18 2016 11:32
by Oceanview
Joined on Sat, Jan 12 2008, Oxford, England, Posts 163

I've noticed the same thing. I haven't yet had time to see if this is a result of the VIPro preset settings being different to the ones I had on the original Solo Strings (and just to avoid confusion my comment is based on a comparison of the new Solo Violin 2 and the Solo Violin from Solo Strings I & II.

Oceanview
Posted on Tue, Nov 22 2016 04:04
by andygrainger
Joined on Thu, Jan 22 2004, Austin, Posts 104

Just had chance to double check the volumes of both the new instruments and they are both about 4dB quieter.  This means you cannot simply put them into an existing matrix (in my case a custom matrix) of either the solo violin I or solo cello I respectively and use as an alternative legato sound for example in a particular passage.  There are certainly ways to work around this but you have to have a separate matrix in a preset and then boost the level of that.  This is not really ideal.  If you however want to have the two solo violins playing in unison by putting them in two slots of a single cell then this is a problem...I know you can adjust the levels of the slots but there is no headroom so you have to pull one down - In this case the original solo violin or cello and this then affects the whole MIR natural volume level etc...

I do not understand why the levels are not matched if indeed they are intended as a solo violin II and a solo cello II and not as someone suggested earlier in this chain, a first chair for dimmension strings, or something like that...I do not have Dimmension Strings so I cannot compare the levels with those instruments.

I have bought the flute 2, both oboes, the second Bb Clarinet and Bassoon 2 in order to create custom a2 instruments in my orchestral template.  I can then have solo, a2 and a3 (via the ensemble instruments) in my woodwind.  The levels all match in these second instruments when I pair them up.  I also have the C and Bb Trumpets for a2 Tpts and they are matched.

These new solo string instruments are excellent of course...I am just perplexed as to why VSL did not match these instrument levels as it makes it tricky to fully utilize them.  Perhaps someone from VSL could explain or comment?

Best,   Andy

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