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Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 06:09
by legodo
Joined on Wed, Sep 30 2009, france, Posts 29

I have updated High Sierra to 10.13.1, Digital Performer to 9.5.1 ( last version compatible high sierra ), and VEP to 6.0.16502.

When I try to instantiate VEP 6 ( audio units) in DP it crash systematically and Performer do not recognyse VEP Mas !! Big Big issue !!

I have tried with Vienna Ensemble ( last version ) and no issue.

Thank you to see at that.

Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 08:39
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12288

Hello logodo, 

Please send the crash report to , we will take a look. 

Did you try to insert VE PRO as a MAS plug-in (with all the advantages that come with MAS, described on page 65 in the VE PRO 6 manual?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 09:57
by legodo
Joined on Wed, Sep 30 2009, france, Posts 29

Thank you Paul for your answer,

The problem is DP see VEP mas and VEP Audio units in his Preferences Plug ins, but when I want to instatiate an VEP audio Units it crashes !!!

And DP NOT SEE VEP mas when I want to instantiate VEP Mas !!

Thank you 

Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 15:42
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12288

Hello legodo, 

Please send the crash report, and include screenshots of the steps you take before the crash occurs. 

Thanks, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 16:57
by legodo
Joined on Wed, Sep 30 2009, france, Posts 29

 

Picture 1 Here is what I see When I want to insert a VEP MAS : No MAS !!

 

Picture 2 & 3 Here what I see when I want to insert a VEP Audio unit and DP crash :

 

 

It not generate a crash report in the console of Mac High Sierra

Thank you Paul

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Posted on Sat, Nov 04 2017 17:22
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12288

Hello legodo,

Just checkd, and everything works fine on my setup. 

I would suggest to uninstall VE PRO with the included Uninstaller and check the Preferences in DP (page 68 in the VE PRO 6 manual). 

Then I'd restart the computer and install VE PRO 6 again and see if the transition works better the second time around. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 07:17
by legodo
Joined on Wed, Sep 30 2009, france, Posts 29

Hello Paul,

I did as you said and I still have the same problem. Now DP does not see the VEP audio units anymore, and when I want to reset the VEP audio units in DP preferences this one crash !! Have you done the test on High Sierra? In the same configuration on my Mac Pro with El Capitan, I have no problem !!

I think it comes with High Sierra and it's unusable as well

Finally VEP6 is the only plug in that makes me such problems and only on DP!

Thank you Paul for your kindness in finding this problem !!

Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 10:50
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12288

Hello legodo, 

Yes, tested on High Sierra, with DP 9.5.73657 64 bit. Just tried again, no troubles, 

You still didn't send us any crash reports, is that correct?

Did you contact DP with those crashes? Any feedback?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 17:41
by legodo
Joined on Wed, Sep 30 2009, france, Posts 29

Hello Paul, I tested with DP 9.5.1 74138 64 bit and it is not the same version as you, but the only one that works with High Sierra. That may be the problem !! I am using Mac OS High Sierra version10.13.1. I tested the same version of DP and VEP on El Capitan and there is no problem. I will also contact Motu to see what they think but I remain convinced that it comes from VEP because it is the only plug in to me this problem. In addition when there is a crash with VEP and DP, DP does not create a report in the console so that I can send it to you. 

Best regards

Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 18:12
by crescentmoon52_8709
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2004, USA, Posts 14

I am getting the same problems with DP 9.5.1 and the latest version of VEP 6.... I have contacted both MOTU and VSL about this matter without much luck. I first told MOTU about this matter over a month ago and just this past week with VSL. I agree that the problem is with VEP 6 and not MOTU with MAS.

Posted on Sun, Nov 05 2017 20:51
by ciprianis
Joined on Sun, Nov 13 2016, Posts 20

I think the problem is with VEP & High Sierra. Just tried running a single audio track through an empty VEP session, from Ableton Live, and it clicks and pops regardless the buffer settings. Also it randomly crashes. So many issues with High Sierra, I hope all devs will manage to sort them out during the next 6 months. I'll not update the OS next year, that's for sure, at this point macOS is the new Windows XP in terms of stability.

Posted on Fri, Nov 10 2017 13:29
by CharlzS
Joined on Wed, Oct 24 2012, Posts 1

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hello legodo, 

Yes, tested on High Sierra, with DP 9.5.73657 64 bit. Just tried again, no troubles, 

You still didn't send us any crash reports, is that correct?

Did you contact DP with those crashes? Any feedback?

Best, 
Paul

I'm having the same issue here. Maybe this has something to do with SSD system drives being converted to APFS. If your test machine doesn't have an SSD it would still be HFS+. Do you others having problems have SSD system drive that converted?

Posted on Mon, Nov 13 2017 13:47
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Are any of you running a Fusion drive as a system drive? Those have been known to cause havoc with daw software.

 

And for those that 'updated' to High Sierra I have to ask why? If the system was working fine on whatever OSX you had (except for ElCrapitan which is one of the worst OSX versins ever) why change? Also there is another lesson to be learned here: always have a clone backup of your system drive BEFORE mucking about with OSX updates.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Mon, Nov 27 2017 22:04
by Chris T
Joined on Fri, Mar 23 2012, Posts 40

VEPro6 is working fine with DP9.5.1 on my current rig (OS 10.10.5), but I'd like to upgrade my Mac to 10.13.1 (High Sierra). 

However after reading this thread I'm turned off the idea!

How is VEP 6 and DP 9.5.1 compatibility under OS 10.13.1 ?  Is this problem fixed yet ?

 

Thx

Posted on Tue, Nov 28 2017 01:47
by musicman691
Joined on Sun, Nov 18 2012, Posts 138

Originally Posted by: Chris T Go to Quoted Post

VEPro6 is working fine with DP9.5.1 on my current rig (OS 10.10.5), but I'd like to upgrade my Mac to 10.13.1 (High Sierra). 

However after reading this thread I'm turned off the idea!

How is VEP 6 and DP 9.5.1 compatibility under OS 10.13.1 ?  Is this problem fixed yet ?

 

Thx

If your system is working okay why go to High Sierra? I'm not sure that HS has been fully vetted by MOTU for use with DP9.51. What you could do is to partition your system drive and put HS on the new partition. Make sure you have a clone of your system BEFORE doing that though. Carbon Copy Cloner is the tool I use for such work. Makes a fully bootable clone as well as also creates a rescue partition; ignore any advice you might get on another forum about clones to the contrary.

 

Or you could pull out your current system drive if possible, put in a blank drive and put HS on that. That way you have an untouched system drive for when things go south.

 

Either way around for if/when you do decide to go to HS do it as a clean install and not over the top of Yosemite even though Apple says that's the way it's supposed to be done. And for the love of all that is audio do NOT use Migration Assassin (aka Migration Assistant) to bring stuff over. Clean install everything and that way you won't or shouldn't have gremlins leftover from your old Yosemite install.

Jack
PT 2019.6 and DP 9.52 on OSX 10.13.6
Qapla!
Posted on Sat, Jan 13 2018 21:12
by Nick Pyo
Joined on Tue, Jan 21 2014, Posts 4

I have exactly same problem as logodo.

I have just bought the latest macbook pro with High Sierra pre-installed.

My DP 9.51 and the latest VEP6 which was updated a week ago still have a critical problem.

Motu says it's a problem from VEP6...

Any idea?

Thanks!

 

Nick,

Posted on Sun, Jan 14 2018 20:40
by crescentmoon52_8709
Joined on Tue, Oct 05 2004, USA, Posts 14

This has been going on a long time with VEP, MOTU and HS.... MOTU thinks is VEP's problem.  I'm not too optimistic this will be solved anytime soon....

Posted on Mon, Jan 15 2018 14:44
by Sing4doe
Joined on Sat, Jun 18 2005, Posts 88
I’m in the same boat. VEP and motu are not playing nicely.. I’m on a new iMac pro so I can’t down grade the system. I pay that much for a computer to be able to take advantage of the power of vsl and other instrument plug ins and I can’t use my system!.

I hope this is fixed soon. This is killing me.
Posted on Mon, Jan 15 2018 23:06
by Nick Pyo
Joined on Tue, Jan 21 2014, Posts 4
OMG~~ So your new Imac pro is just for Safari?
This is so crazy...
I am also planning to get Imac pro but still waiting for this problem to be fixed.
Many DP users use VEP and UAD.. and i cannot believe that we cannot use
these major software in High Sierra...
I have been loyal DP users for 20 years and I don't feel good these days....

Posted on Wed, Jan 17 2018 08:42
by ephanassai
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2009, Posts 14

Well I understand that these updates take some time.... But it's been a while now... I hope the update will be coming out soon. Especially since High Sierra and DP 9.5 work great together. Much snappier interface and processing IMHO! Looking forward!!!

Greetings
Urs

Owl and Bear Sound Productions
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www.ursbollhalder.com

2012 MacPro 5,1 3,33 GHz 6-core Intel XEON with 48GB RAM (Master)
2014 Intel-Core-i7-4790 3,60 GHz with 32 GB RAM (Slave)

LOGIC PRO 10.4.1
DIGITAL PERFORMER 9.51
CUBASE 9.5.21.3
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