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Understanding Phillip Glass
Last post Mon, Mar 12 2018 by Paul McGraw, 42 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Mar 12 2018 11:20
by Paul McGraw
Joined on Mon, Feb 29 2016, Georgia, USA, Posts 335

Originally Posted by: agitato Go to Quoted Post
Ken

You speak of Debussy, Bartok etc., in the same level as Glass in the sense that they are all 'modern' as opposed to, I guess Mahler or Beethiven who are 'old fashioned.' While I disagree with this categorization (Beethoven is more modern than any in some of his works....take the grosse fugue for example)....I would question a grouping Glass with Bartok or Debussy.

Here is a simple test. Show me one work of Glass that is 'old fashioned.' Can he write a competent work in tradional harmony? Debussy ravel Bartok all showed many times they can write masterful tonal works. I doubt Glass can do that. But you can prove me wrong. A composer who can't show mastery in the foundations of the form is not a composer to me at all. The best analogy I can give is in painting...Picasso could paint in every genre before he broke tradition.

I suggest that 'minimalism' has been exploited as a way to hide behind lack of knowledge or skill. Minimalism should not mean minimal knowledge!

If you truly want modern, how about Ligeti as William mentioned? He truly creates incredible soundscapes, I've even heard the sound of tearing paper blended with the orchestra.

To me there is only high quality art or mediocre art. I don't care about modern or old fashioned.

Anand

I agree completely. You put it very well.

Posted on Mon, Mar 12 2018 11:32
by Paul McGraw
Joined on Mon, Feb 29 2016, Georgia, USA, Posts 335

Originally Posted by: William Go to Quoted Post
We are living in a time of complete decadence artistically.  There is no movement "forward".  All forms of art exploded into pieces in the first half of the 20th century and the pieces are flopping amid a welter of blood and gore on the floor of art -  as grotesque, feeble and semi-animate as the twitching body parts of the axed teenagers in the original Evil Dead.

Eloquently written. I agree. And the greatest victims are the countless music school students who dream of creating beauty, and instead, are taught to vomit out an endless stream of filth.

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