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Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 00:09
by mmueller
Joined on Mon, Sep 28 2009, Posts 120

Originally Posted by: matthieu.lechowski Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Thanks again for your patience!

You should say : "thanks again, dear silly cash providers, to be treated with disrespect since six months"

Releasing 2 new products with Synchron player (CFX and SFX Strings) before releasing the Synchron Player for the Strings I or Percussion I is just insulting.

Personally my trust in VSL is totally broken : I will even not try the Synchron Player if it releases finally one day, and I'm selling all my Synchron products.

Agreed. This complete ignorant behavior is simply insulting. 

Last Library from VSL for me too.

Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 00:47
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5540

Not the last library for professionals.  VSL is always first on the list of must-haves.   

Synchron Player simply took more time to get ready. There was no "insult."  Synchron is new technology, which everyone knows has delays and/or improvements as things progress.  VSL has a great track record for giving their customers the best products in sampling, and they are certainly not abandoning that with their Synchron series.

William Kersten

www.williamkersten.com

Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 05:24
by Piotr Katzpersky
Joined on Mon, May 11 2015, Polska, Posts 30
Originally Posted by: TheAmateurMuscian Go to Quoted Post
<p>Hi Piotr Katzpersky,</p>
<p>Thanks for the demos.</p>
<p>Well, initially, I thought the first demo (the competitor) had the smoothest legato which caused me concern, but then I realised the second and third demos (the Synchron Strings)&nbsp;were rather louder, which would likely affect the transition from one note to the next.</p>
<p>Also, on further inspection I discovered that the first demo wasn't completely smooth either. It's faint, but I can&nbsp;tell when one note ends and another begins. This is also true for the Synchron Strings demos, but since they're louder it's more obvious, which is probably what led me to think the first demo was smoothest at first.</p>
<p>So in the end, it's&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;to judge.</p>


The first one has much lower volume than Synchrons, but all of them play the loudest velocity layer. I'll prepare later today something more scientificaly accurate if you want. Fyi, I think that lyrical vibrato worka best on general.
Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 16:56
by Piotr Katzpersky
Joined on Mon, May 11 2015, Polska, Posts 30

Here is second approach - this time volumes are similar and additional legato was added. Disclaimer: Performed by robots that are dead inside - means no CC data ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yvoi9dlyllaadb/legato-2nd.mp3?dl=0

1st - competitor,

2nd - synchrons, normal legato, vibrato,

3rd - synchrons normal legato, lyrical vibrato,

4th - synchrons slow legato, normal vibrato

Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 18:22
by MusicianInProgress
Joined on Sat, Feb 14 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 7

Originally Posted by: Piotr Katzpersky Go to Quoted Post

Here is second approach - this time volumes are similar and additional legato was added. Disclaimer: Performed by robots that are dead inside - means no CC data ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yvoi9dlyllaadb/legato-2nd.mp3?dl=0

Hi, thanks for this.

Well, to my ears, the Synchron Strings do sound a little bit smoother than the competitor in the equal volume demos. I'd be interested to know what the competitor is, just out of curiosity.

I also do hope that the VSL Synchron Player for Synchron Strings will be released very soon. It's stressful and a little sad seeing these angry customers threatening to abandon VSL over their admittedly unorthodox way of handling product releases lately. I can't claim to understanding how these people feel because I'm not a customer (yet), so what would I know?

Posted on Mon, May 28 2018 19:00
by Piotr Katzpersky
Joined on Mon, May 11 2015, Polska, Posts 30

Competitor is Hollywood Strings. So yes, it's not very new library, but despite that it gives much more control over produced sound imo (vibrato, legato).

As for standard synchron legato - for me it is odd, it sounds detached. In naked demo they sound okish, but they've got habit of surprising during sequencing (odd atacks, transition buildup, don't know how to call it). On lyrical vibrato patches it's okish. Slow legato is the best out of the pack, but works only for slow passages. None of them are great or reinvented. And I think this is the biggest problem. We were lured by big marketing words, promises and we believed them, because it was VSL. And everything since then went downhill. One of the worst releases in sample history I guess.

In the end it's all about your own ears - take audition credit, pay that 20 euros, test Synchrons with player when it's out (in context of sequencing, not playing around, because while played they are beautifully responsive). Because regret over few 100 euros will be much bigger than over 20 euros. And you might actually like them.

Posted on Tue, May 29 2018 06:51
by yilalatavsl
Joined on Tue, Nov 03 2015, Posts 41

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