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Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 17:45
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
I wanted to take a moment and thank all those at VSL for their incredible work. I was just given the 'Best Original Score' for the Hollywood DV Festival for the independent film "Hero to Me".

There were some 1,100 entrants.

The biggest compliment was given in the 'Q&A' session the followed. They asked "with what was a relatively low budget independent film - how were the producers of this film able to AFFORD a recorded live orchestra!!!!!!!"

No bigger compliment can be paid to VSL than this. Big Smile

Expect my order for the complete VI within 10 days.

Thanks again.


Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 17:58
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622
Great news, Rob! Big Smile
Compliments and congratulations from Vienna.

best
Herb
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 17:59
by SyQuEsT
Joined on Mon, Jan 13 2003, Quebec, Posts 617
One word : congratulation Big Smile

Can you post some mp3 ? I'm so curious ... Stick out tongue
Mathieu Laprise
Sonomax inc.
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 18:06
by Martin Bayless
Joined on Sat, Oct 25 2003, New York, USA, Posts 266
awesome rob - congratulations!
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 18:07
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7883
Thanks for sharing your joy with us, Rob. I hope this is just a starting point for your continuing success. All the best! (... and yes - please post a link to an example or two Smile ...)
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 18:24
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Many thanks to all for your nice comments. It is funny how film music REALLY is different than concert music. Our job is to support and heighten the emotional content of what pictures are before us.

The other point is that is never ceases to amaze me how much we do NOT include when scoring (less is more is usually better Smile )

Having said that on this film (Heroism based) - the Epic Horns captured the emotional context so well (picking up the main theme melodic duties). Again thank you for this release as well as all the Pro Edition.

This music will not change the world - that's for sure, but here are some samples.



http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Opening%20Titles.mp3


http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Fight%20of%20your%20life.mp3

http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Closing%20Titles%20(A%20Hero%20Emerges).mp3


http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Kelly's%20Theme%20(I%20believe).mp3


http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Kelly's%20Theme%20(%20I%20believe%20)%20rolling%20credits.mp3


http://www.robelliottmusic.com/mp3s/Action%20-%20Epic/Lost.mp3



Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 18:51
by clarkcontrol
Joined on Mon, May 03 2004, The Pagan Underground, Posts 315
Excellent job. Wonderfully mixed. Kind of reminds me of "The Negotiator."

Clark
Clark
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 19:04
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
clarkcontrol wrote:
Excellent job. Wonderfully mixed. Kind of reminds me of "The Negotiator."

Clark


Many thanks. Is that the fillm with Nicole Kidman? Who did the score?
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 19:24
by clarkcontrol
Joined on Mon, May 03 2004, The Pagan Underground, Posts 315
Samuel Jackson and Kevin Spacey. Graeme Revell did the score. IMO, one of his better scores. It's a police drama and a fantastic movie. The soundtrack CD is mixed much differently (better=like yours=more subtle) than how it appears in the movie, though.

Clark
Clark
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 20:21
by mosso
Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005, London, England, Posts 376
Fantastic Rob!!! Congratulations!!!

Martin
Martin Thornton
<a href="http://www.mosso.co.uk/" target="_blank">www.mosso.co.uk</a>
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 20:27
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Martin and Clark - many thanks for your kind words.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 21:06
by dunk187
Joined on Mon, Oct 04 2004, SF Bay Area, Posts 164
Very very cool, Rob. I love you're soundfield. I can see why you fooled them into thinking it was live. Great job, keep up the good work.... This goes to show too that just because those of us have the "Lowly" Pro Edition, and not the VI....doesn't mean that we are dead in the water! You just have to work a little harder, thats all, eh?

-Ben
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 21:21
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
dunk187 wrote:
Very very cool, Rob. I love you're soundfield. I can see why you fooled them into thinking it was live. Great job, keep up the good work.... This goes to show too that just because those of us have the "Lowly" Pro Edition, and not the VI....doesn't mean that we are dead in the water! You just have to work a little harder, thats all, eh?

-Ben



Yea - very true about PE. Really hoping and expecting VI to be a 'time saver' - now if Herb can just come up with the controller 'fixed crappy cue' - legato of course Stick out tongue

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Mon, Dec 12 2005 23:31
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 172
Sounds great! Were you using all Horizon products or was this a Pro and Epic Horns combo?
Chris
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 00:07
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
dragonwind wrote:
Sounds great! Were you using all Horizon products or was this a Pro and Epic Horns combo?
Chris



Hi Chris,

This was PE, Chamber Strings (particularily the short staccs), and Epic Ho.

Hope that helps.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 09:58
by timkiel
Joined on Fri, Jun 06 2003, Posts 629
Hi Rob,

Excellent stuff. Congratulations.

Any chance of sharing some of your secrets round i) the composition approach you took, ii) the time it took do complete and also iii) the mixing/mastering approach inc. the reverbs you used etc.

Cheers

Tim
MacbookPro M1 Pro Max 32GB, Logic 10.7.3 (Rosetta Mode)
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 15:05
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
timkiel wrote:
Hi Rob,

Excellent stuff. Congratulations.

Any chance of sharing some of your secrets round i) the composition approach you took, ii) the time it took do complete and also iii) the mixing/mastering approach inc. the reverbs you used etc.

Cheers

Tim


Sure Time - I don't think they are 'secrets' - I am sure many here have their way to approach projects. This is one person's way

i) For me, I watch the entire project a few times. Then I'll very simply follow along improvising various themes - you know when you hit the 'right one' - for that scene (usually on the piano - but sometimes using one of the terrific VSL legato WW patches). I usually start with the 'most important scene - whatever that is. If I can capture the emotional content of that scene everything else seems to work out better.

On this project the Fight Scene (Fight of your Life) actually took me a couple of days to get right. The visuals were up and down - fighting and not fighting (ebb and flow) - it was at first difficult for me to get this 'interplay' right. The Director had some 'sacred' SOUND DESIGN stuff he wanted to be - at times - in the forefront Crying It's all good though - we both ended happy with the cue when it was done.

ii) On this project, I was given 2.5 weeks to write and mix (about 20 minutes of music). It was a little stressful at times (2 days the HOST PC decided to get cranky), plus I just don't write exceptionally fast. Having said that it was a good 'exercise' to test myself. Has given me some confidence to perhaps tackle othe projects that other board members here do day in and day out.

iii) Wish I had more time here - oh well. Really didn't mess around alot with EQ (some shelving of 2-4K on some of the strings - dug some mud out of the low brass (300 K). Used a couple of instances of Giga pulse (narrowed the stereo field to 35%). Had a limiter on the master buss to pick up some of the heavier percussive hits and that's about all.

Hope this helps.

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 16:01
by Craig Sharmat
Joined on Wed, Oct 16 2002, Woodland Hills, Posts 416
Nice Stuff Rob!

Very clean, sounds like it worked great for the movie. Would love to see it sometime.
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 16:27
by timkiel
Joined on Fri, Jun 06 2003, Posts 629
Thanks Rob
MacbookPro M1 Pro Max 32GB, Logic 10.7.3 (Rosetta Mode)
Posted on Tue, Dec 13 2005 16:38
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1657
Craig Sharmat wrote:
Nice Stuff Rob!

Very clean, sounds like it worked great for the movie. Would love to see it sometime.


Really wish I could have gone down to the LA area for the festival (could have stop by your place in the valley Smile )

Sorry I missed you when you were up here (I was the 'final stretch' of this project).

Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
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