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Appassionata Strings - pricing question
Last post Wed, Jan 24 2007 by JWL, 35 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 11:26
by musos
Joined on Sun, Dec 08 2002, Johannesburg, South Africa, Posts 912
To the VSL team:
I have the Appassionata Violins, which I received as a bonus from VSL sometime ago.

When I log into the VSL store and look at Appassionata Strings, there is no discount - I am charged the full price. I don't mean to be ungrateful for my free gift of the Violins, but shouldn't I get a discount for these? The VSL policy is that you never pay for samples you already have. Though I didn't pay for the Violins, I own them nevertheless.

If I buy the full Extended Appassionata Strings at the full price, it effectively means that I am "losing" (= paying for) my free gift of the Appasionata Violins.

Could Herb or someone from the team please comment?

Thanks and regards - Colin
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 11:46
by rino amato
Joined on Wed, Aug 13 2003, Rome-Europe, Posts 494
Hi Musos... I was wondering just the same thing!
...maybe we'll get a brand new updated Appassionata Violins...? Confused
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 12:03
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Whilst never wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth, I think that it is bit hopeful to expect an discount on this Collection, when any duplicate samples were never paid for in the first place! However, I don't mind being proved wrong on this. Big Smile

DG
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Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 12:07
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9101
just to mention ... you do not own them, you have received a license (for appass violins) ... the appass violins (bonus files) are an instrument, not a collection.
after getting the wording clear i can at least put your minds at rest ... i'm sure herb will announce the rule soon, and it's not too bad Wink
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 12:15
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Thanks cm.

Actually my only real "complaint" about the App Violins is the lack of different note lengths in the "short" category. Is this improved with the "proper" version? I find that the staccato is too long most of the time, and playing it shorter just makes it sound truncated.

DG
Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 12:44
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4620
We'll make an official announcement later, but here is a short info how the Appassionata upgrade will work:

We'll offer a 6 to 8 weeks introduction period where you will get the extended content for free if you have registered
Pro Edition Strings or Pro Edition Performance Set plus
Vienna Instruments Orchestral strings I + II (standard + extended).

If you have these products registered you'll get automatically a full code for the Appassionatas when you are registering the Standard Appassionatas collection.

So you only have to order the Standard version and double checking if all your products are registered before you register the Appassionatas.

best
Herb
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 13:41
by rino amato
Joined on Wed, Aug 13 2003, Rome-Europe, Posts 494
DG wrote:
Actually my only real "complaint" about the App Violins is the lack of different note lengths in the "short" category. Is this improved with the "proper" version? I find that the staccato is too long most of the time, and playing it shorter just makes it sound truncated.DG

Just to mention... (Big Smile cm, I'm kidding) DG gave a clear translation of my hope: "maybe we'll get a brand new updated Appassionata Violins" (that line was the most important, to me, in my post :winkSmile...

Thanks Herb for the good news!
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 18:42
by Laurent
Joined on Thu, Sep 05 2002, Paris, Posts 337
Cool, THanks Herb
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 20:01
by Rob Elliott
Joined on Sun, Feb 02 2003, Salt Lake City, UT, Posts 1654
Very fair Herb.

Demos? Can you provide only these new samples as a demo. Kevin's first VI quick and dirty demos what made me plop down $7K for the VI update. We have some very talented programmers here on the board but I would 'also' love to hear this set all by itself - little processing.


Rob
what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 21:10
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Very generous. I wasn't going to buy App Strings at the moment, but now....... Surprise

DG
Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 21:23
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 550
Hi Herb,

What I understand from your post is that during the 6 - 8 week intro period [does this period start from when the product is ready to ship?], and if you have the full Vienna Instrument string package - 1 and 2 - the standard AND the extended version - and if you buy the appassionata VI strings Standard version, you get the extended version free. Am I right or wrong here?

thanks for any info with this.


regards,

Steve M.
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 21:24
by musos
Joined on Sun, Dec 08 2002, Johannesburg, South Africa, Posts 912
Thankyou Herb & cm for the info.
I do have the required products - and they are all registered (just checked on the website).

So...please let us know when this 6-8 period starts....

Of course, THANKS for your generosity and support for faithful old customers!
Big Smile

Regards - Colin
Posted on Tue, Jan 16 2007 23:46
by timkiel
Joined on Fri, Jun 06 2003, Posts 627
DG wrote:
Very generous. I wasn't going to buy App Strings at the moment, but now....... Surprise

DG


Same here. Damn I hate VSL sometimes [Wink]
Intel Mac Pro (2 x 2.66 Xeon Dual Core, 8GB RAM, Nvidia 7300GT), RME Fireface 800, OS 10.6.4, Logic 9.1.1 (64-bit mode)
Posted on Wed, Jan 17 2007 02:03
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 550
Hi Herb,

Sorry - I do apologise - in re-reading your post, I realized that you had to have the strings pro-edition or pro-edition performance set also to qualify.

best regards,

Steve Big Smile
Posted on Wed, Jan 17 2007 12:40
by Sapkiller
Joined on Tue, Nov 05 2002, Copenhagen - Denmark, Posts 395
Thx a lot Herb - a really nice gesture to us old-timers.
Best regards
Bjarne

"Keep your head cool and your heart warm"
Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2007 14:35
by Nigel Watson
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, Cologne, Germany, Posts 365
Sapkiller wrote:
Thx a lot Herb - a really nice gesture to us old-timers.


Well I'm not sure....if you haven't bought the VI editions of Orchestral Strings, even though you bought Performance & Pro Strings, it seems there will be no discount at all. In my case have FE complete and ProPerformance set, and I only bought the Chamber Strings as VI so far. So I don't think my older Strings registrations will be of any benefit. It would of course be nice if there could be some sort of introductory offer which helps a wider group of us old "VIP" users.

It's a complex business, this "being fair" , ain't it? [Wink]

Nigel
Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2007 14:51
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9101
i'd like to point you to the initial offer, which clearly refers to pro edition users upgrading to Vienna Instruments Strings
http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=6876
herb wrote:
I was looking for an additional attractive premium bonus for our Pro Edition users who plan to upgrade to Vienna Instruments ...

now the offer has been expanded from appass violins to appass strings extended as bonus ...
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2007 16:13
by Nigel Watson
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, Cologne, Germany, Posts 365
Thanks Christian- it *is* hard to follow all the permutations - it would be simplest if we could see in the discount calculator just what pricing is available, according to what we have previously registered, and with the additional information that mentions special (i.e introductory) offers, etc.

I see the Discount Calculator is offline, so does that mean it's being updated for this purpose, please?

Thank you

Nigel
Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2007 16:33
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9101
the vienna instruments calculater is beeing updated because we noticed a few inconsistencies on discounts with some mixed first-/pro-edition/horizon combinations and registered vienna instruments have not been displayed.

i can't promise to show such special offers and i'm not sure now if it was (is) not time-limited ...
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Sat, Jan 20 2007 22:43
by Kevin Kliesch
Joined on Tue, Jan 28 2003, Burbank, CA, Posts 97
Rob Elliott wrote:
Very fair Herb.

Demos? Can you provide only these new samples as a demo. Kevin's first VI quick and dirty demos what made me plop down $7K for the VI update. We have some very talented programmers here on the board but I would 'also' love to hear this set all by itself - little processing.


Rob


Hey - don't put the guilt on me for the $7K you dropped! Big Smile
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