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Last post Tue, Aug 09 2011 by devastat, 79 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 06:30
by devastat
Joined on Sun, Jul 17 2011, Posts 45
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Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 13:57
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5514

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Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 18:09
by devastat
Joined on Sun, Jul 17 2011, Posts 45
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Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 18:54
by GoranTch
Joined on Tue, Mar 14 2006, Berlin, Germany, Posts 524

Errikos wrote:

But I must say, I was impressed with the anvil/hammer sound, what library was that from?

I must admit I am not very happy with the woodwinds I currently have (not VSL). I am eagerly waiting for companies like Cinesamples, Audiobro and EW to come up with their woodwinds libraries. I am sure VSL woodwinds is the best you can have at the moment, its a bit too expensive for me to get right now..

I have layered quite a lot of different things from various sources in the hammer type percussion hits and such.. There is some stuff from Sonokinetic Tutti, Spitfire Percussion and then some Tonehammer percussions..

Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 20:39
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

For propriety reasons, only the first line in the above post was mine.

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 21:13
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5514

never mind

Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 21:23
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5514

never mind

Posted on Tue, Aug 02 2011 22:41
by devastat
Joined on Sun, Jul 17 2011, Posts 45
I was wrong about the sound - sorry William I apologize.
Posted on Thu, Aug 04 2011 05:04
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5514

 That's O.K. 

Posted on Sat, Aug 06 2011 19:38
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
To Errikos:
"If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!"

GREAT SENTENCE!!! IS IT YOURS????
Posted on Sat, Aug 06 2011 20:23
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

Yes, it originated as a comment in one of my polemic posts somewhere in the middle of this thread, and I decided to sport it as my signature in the vein hope that through repetition - as with subliminal messages - people might think thrice about what they are, what they do, how, and who they think they're kidding (including themselves).

I encourage its flagrant and unlimited proliferation.

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Sat, Aug 06 2011 20:37
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
Maybe I didn't understand exactly that sentence, and I was mistaking being ironic. Please consider that messages that are too subliminal can be misunderstood by many people...
Posted on Sat, Aug 06 2011 21:19
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

So what is ambiguous about this sentence rendering its understanding difficult? It is its repetition I was comparing to subliminal messages, not the sentence itself. On the contrary, this sentence's/aphorism's message is crystal clear, with no intentional - and I believe no perceivable - irony about it. It means exactly what it says:

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 00:01
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5514

sorry about that zombie-Davidsbundler-Zimmerian-Barbarian lapse...

Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 00:37
by The Minstrel
Joined on Fri, Oct 16 2009, Sweden, Posts 94

This is such a lovely and friendly forum. Genius indeed has side effects.

Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 00:51
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

Although to me it is self-evident what the message is, perhaps it is ambiguous to some. I don't wish to be misunderstood (by anyone who gives a crap what I say anyway):

My contention is that you either have to be able to notate your intentions, or if you can't read/write standard manuscript you then have to either be able to play everything in the sequencer, or if you're not a keyboardist, you have to be able to input every single MIDI event of your composition in step-time, with your mouse/keyboard, etc. ALL of it. 

If on the other hand you think that orchestral composition is anything like dragging several tempo-compatible Apple-loops to the Arrange Page and mixing them, i.e. creating a track out of OTHER PEOPLE'S ideas, then the following was certainly inspired by - as well as addressing - you:

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 08:10
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
Ok thank you, now your opinion is clearer :)
Posted on Tue, Aug 09 2011 12:38
by oliva
Joined on Fri, Jun 30 2006, Posts 19

Hi Erik,

first of all thank's for your efford! Maybe I'm wrong but your LASS example on soundcloud sounds a lot like strings mono thru a stereo reverb. I have no relations with LASS at all. I just own the library as well, along with all of the other tested libraries and in their defense I must say I really think it can sound much better than this! ...well at least more stereo.

Best regards,

Oliver

Posted on Tue, Aug 09 2011 20:30
by devastat
Joined on Sun, Jul 17 2011, Posts 45
Hollywood Brass demos are up in the EW site. Have to say that HS and HB together sounds lush.
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