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VEpro 7 bug with SINE player
Last post Sat, Apr 30 2022 by fritzflotow, 9 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Apr 21 2022 21:12
by fritzflotow
Joined on Mon, Apr 23 2007, Posts 330

I have found some problems here with OT SINE in VEpro. I am on an iMac Pro with the latest macOS Monterey and also the latest version of Cubase, VEpro7 and SINE.

The most obvious and easily reproducible is this: if you have several VST instances of SINE loaded into a VEpro server instance, loading the file fresh, the Sine Window is out of sight when you click the first track. That repairs itself when clicking the second track. The SINE plugin is now editable. Now I use the cursor keys to switch between different SINE instances - no problem! Then, I switch to a different tab in my SINE instance (e.g. to the mixer tab). After that, the next time I switch tracks with the cursor keys, VEpro crashes.
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Posted on Tue, Apr 26 2022 05:41
by Abel
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 154

The AU version of Sine seems to work fine in VEpro7.
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Posted on Tue, Apr 26 2022 12:30
by Novatlan
Joined on Mon, Oct 12 2009, Bingen, Germany, Posts 173

Not saying that it is not a SINE issue, but I've seen that exact issue with a lot of plugins over the years.

Definitely send all the issues you have to OT's support, so we can investigate! The newest version of SINE should for example fix some freezes in VE Pro.

PC i7 3930K, 64GB Ram, RME Fireface UCX, Win 10 Pro
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Posted on Thu, Apr 28 2022 00:20
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1953

Well (NB., I'm not VSL), that doesn't replicate here and sounds systemic, with select via arrow being problematic (I haver seen similar on systems of mine btw). SINE will not remember its window settings in VEP at all here, however.
It never has, though.


Apple M1 - Mac OS 14
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Posted on Thu, Apr 28 2022 00:21
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1953

Using SINE was looking real dodgy here until they did that recent hotfix, with audio not happening unpredictably.


Apple M1 - Mac OS 14
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Posted on Fri, Apr 29 2022 16:54
by fritzflotow
Joined on Mon, Apr 23 2007, Posts 330

Ok, I See now, that this is not only with SINE. It happens with Kontakt as well. I have found a perfectly reproducible recipe to crash VEpro (and Cubase with it). You just switch to any Instrument-UI, edit something the via mouse and use the cursor key to move up the instrument list ... boom! Works every time for me. Don't you guys have that problem?

My list of problems with SINE in general is long, however! I am surely gonna send it to OT-support, Tobias. It will just take me some weeks to get that list ready, I am afraid. :-)
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Posted on Fri, Apr 29 2022 22:56
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1953

I got it to crash by doing it several times in rapid succession. First couple of times, no.
This was in Synchron Player in a Synchron Library product btw.


Apple M1 - Mac OS 14
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Posted on Fri, Apr 29 2022 23:06
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1953

Doing it not-in-any-hurry, no, it's fine here. 


Apple M1 - Mac OS 14
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Posted on Sat, Apr 30 2022 14:29
by fritzflotow
Joined on Mon, Apr 23 2007, Posts 330

However fast you do it: a crash should not happen! That means I am not the only one who is getting crashes related to handling the UI.
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