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Buggy behaviour: Logic 10.7.1 with VEPro AU3(Beta) and AU2
Last post Tue, Nov 30 2021 by Macker, 2 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Nov 29 2021 16:23
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 413

In Big Sur, the combination of VEP 7.0.1056 or 7.0.1120 with AU3(Beta) client plugins in Logic Pro 10.7.1 has deteriorated into seriously buggy behaviour, compared to VEP 7.0.1056 with AU3(Beta) client plugins in LPX 10.4.8 in either High Sierra or Big Sur.

For example, now only half of VEP's total of 48 ports per instance appear to respond properly to MIDI Note-Offs; in the other half all notes hang.

The afflicted port numbers are:

5, 6, 7, 8, 13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 22, 23, 24, 29, 30, 31, 32, 37, 38, 39, 40, 45, 46, 47, 48.

I'm also seeing strange behaviour in VSL's AU2 workaround multiport template for VEP/LPX, when using Logic 10.7.1. For example, after responding correctly to a single Note-On and Note-Off in a MIDI region, the template in Logic then sends endlessly repeated Note-Offs for that note, separated by the original note's length it seems. This erroneous repetition continues even after I disconnect the Multi Instrument from the Transformer that prepends the port code to each MIDI event! In 20 years of working in Logic's Environment I've never seen brain damage quite like that. Also there are spurious bursts of Note-Offs when Logic's Transport is started or stopped. These strange things don't happen with the VSL workaround AU2 multiport template in LPX 10.4.8.

VSL Support have responded to my report about the AU3 behaviour mentioned above, by saying that it's still Beta; which is fair enough. Many bug reports now being prepared for Apple.

In short, when using Logic 10.7.1, it appears there is now no properly workable multiport template configuration option at all for Logic/VEP.

One thing I can do now - go back to bed! Lol.

It's been a good day so far. Now watch some Gollum come along and try to ruin it. | #YesWeCare
Posted on Tue, Nov 30 2021 12:16
by Macker
Joined on Tue, Aug 21 2018, London, Posts 413

Order and sanity restored!

 •  Logic.  I shall be using Logic 10.4.8 in Big Sur (and perhaps later on in Monterey, but sometimes back in High Sierra) until Apple clean up the dreadful mess they've made in Logic 10.7. Having discovered that for me at least, Dolby Atmos is much ado about nothing, I won't be missing that. There might be a few occasions when I'd prefer to have the new Port/Channel assignment facilities in the 10.7 Track Inspector; but I've been making do well enough with the old facilitities for 20 years, so another year or so won't hurt. And I can live without the new Ableton-style live-looping feature; I have Ableton for that. Also, 10.4.8 won't stop me adding Dorico in the near future as a front-end for my Logic/VEP(AU3) multiport template, because I can make it happen in Logic's Environment.

 •  VEPro.  I've uninstalled VEPro 7.0.1120 and reinstalled 7.0.1056, because I want my carefully organised VEP screen with Mixer, Instrument and Automation panes all showing together as saved - 1120 has lost the plot there.

 •  macOS.  It's been my policy for many years to wait until the macOS I wish to upgrade to has reached at least version (N).4.0 or more. That way I don't fall foul of incompatibilities with 3rd party apps, plugins, etc. And despite Apple having recently narrowed the window of opportunity for upgrading, my policy still stands: Monterey is still too young.

 •  All this means I won't be releasing my Situater orchestral intonation subsystem for Logic in the foreseeable future. But that's another story.

 •  [Update] Just bought Dorico Pro in Steinberg's sale, having been trying out the demo. I'm loving it! I'm still astonished that the Dorico team haven't yet made a serious move towards orchestral intonation (OI). When my Situator is finally out there and composers hear the difference that OI makes to instrument and ensemble emulations, I'm betting that Dorico will become one of the first professional apps to have OI designed in. And that's the point of Situater - it's a concept demonstrator; I want makers of pro DAWs and scoring apps to copy what Situater achieves. Then, with any luck, we'll no longer have to listen to simulated orchestras that all too often sound like some kind of cinema organ! It's little wonder that orchestral composition has been pretty much moribund for many decades now, compared to the great times before the wet blanket of ET had spread everywhere and stifled the fine art of composition.

It's been a good day so far. Now watch some Gollum come along and try to ruin it. | #YesWeCare
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